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It worked well against Russia and the Soviet Union, but it's been my claim for years now, that this won't work against China anymore. Because China is way more advanced now than the Soviet Union ever was by comparison for the time. And all it does is delay China while they build their own competing supply industries. And the end result will be that China will just dominate the backbone industries too.
The difference is in raw power, China has 10 times the people Russia has, and an economy that in real value more than matches USA now. In short China has all the advantages for long term developments. Except for not being ahead on chip manufacturing already.
China is already competing at top level in almost all key industries, and has absolutely unparalleled manufacturing capacity. but also technologically they are in the top of EV, Batteries, solar panels, and 44 other technology areas.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/02/china-leading-us-in-technology-race-in-all-but-a-few-fields-thinktank-finds
Trying to hold back China is simply not a viable option anymore.
I had heard that DeepSeek only took less than a hundredth of the power to train it, so it wasn't them getting their hands on a bunch of new chips or anything.
I assume they don’t care about the ownership of training data. So they can just train these things on all the pirated data they can get ahold of. Whereas US companies might have a slightly harder time with that.
Good. Pirate it all if it makes the product FOSS and more efficient.