this post was submitted on 25 Jan 2025
156 points (84.2% liked)

FediLore + Fedidrama

2159 readers
3 users here now

Rules

  1. Any drama must be posted as an observer, you cannot post drama that you are involved with.
  2. When posting screenshots of drama, you must obscure the identity of all the participants.

Chronicle the life and tale of the fediverse (+ matrix)

Largely a sublemmy about capturing drama, from fediverse spanning drama to just lemmy drama.

Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc

(New) This sub's intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don't get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama

Tags: fediverse news, lemmy news, lemmyverse

Partners:

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

https://lemmy.nz/post/18610200/13255360

This user describes how most of the women-centered communities on Lemmy were shut down due to harassment of their members.

Another user adds "We need a safe space, but most of the women I know on here don’t have the time or energy to moderate it. And there’s so few of us, it feels like it’s not worth the effort anyway."

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Very disappointing to find out the real reason why women-oriented communities aren't exactly thriving here. But not surprising, I guess, although I was expecting better from a platform that seems so generally left wing. Can't even expect the men here to stomp that shit out. And now I'm waiting for someone to come and respond something along the lines of "not all men" while not addressing or confronting the issue or taking any steps to push for change.

Edit: aren't admins able to see who is downvoting? So basically the admins of your instance are just sitting back and allowing certain people to ruin things for others in communities that don't concern them?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I can, but the problem is how do you sort out genuine downvoters from as you put them, the stompers? I've been working with a few other admins to have a more automated solution. Right now I have to go into the database and do queries about once a month to find trends

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

If it's a particular community being targeted, I'd probably start with people who aren't subscribed or don't contribute but camp out downvoting everything anyway. I mean, to me it sounds very much like this user's community is being blatantly targeted, so I'm not sure I understand why trends still need to be researched before anything can be done about it.

But I'm not an admin and I actually don't know what tools you have available to you. I was just under the impression that you could see when people who don't actually belong to a certain community go there just to downvote everything. Reddit managed to make people fear consequences for downvote brigading though, not sure how they pulled it off.

If this really is something that admins on various Lemmy instances are just too helpless to do anything about, then I apologise for directing my anger towards admins. And then I don't know what the solution is either because without any sort of assistance in the matter, women are just going to give up even trying to set up spaces here (actually seems like that's already happened for the most part). And so the culture will just never change.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

From the UI, we get to see who downvoted a post, but nothing more than that unfortunately.

Trying to see who consistently downvoted posts, or who does who isn't subscribed is not available in the UI and requires going in the database and running scripts. Which I do, but it's a whole other later that I need to automate but haven't had time to do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I'd be happy to write a bunch of sql for this type of thing and throw it on github if you have any more specific requests / if instance admins would find it helpful

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

I was devastated from the most recent US election as I learned a similarity between all political views is hating women. On another note, it's been 17 hours and I am immune to sarcasm; NoT aLL mEn

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So basically the admins of your instance are just sitting back and allowing certain people to ruin things for others in communities that don't concern them?

Yes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I feel like fucking rioting now lol. Hopefully one of these days there's enough of us here that see red over this shit to do exactly that.