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Israeli security forces backed by helicopters raided the volatile West Bank city of Jenin on Tuesday, killing at least nine Palestinians in what Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called a “large-scale and significant military operation”.

“We are acting systematically and resolutely against the Iranian axis wherever it extends its arms – in Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Judea and Samaria,” Netanyahu said. Judea and Samaria are terms Israel uses for the occupied West Bank.

The move into Jenin, where the Israeli army has carried out multiple raids and large-scale incursions over recent years, comes only two days after the start of a ceasefire in Gaza.

Israeli NGO B’Tselem accused the Israeli government of using the Gaza ceasefire as “an excuse and opportunity to ratchet up the oppression of West Bank Palestinians”.

“This is not what a ceasefire looks like,” it said.

In the days leading up to the Israeli military operation in Jenin, Palestinians in the West Bank said multiple roadblocks had been set up throughout the territory, where violence has resurged since the start of the war in Gaza.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Trump has already done more to stop Palestine being obliterated than the Democrats did. The fact that you had the head in the sand for the entire last year doesn't change the facts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

What’d he claim credit for, this time?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

He claimed credit for sending an envoy to Israel to actually use American leverage to procure a ceasefire. The actual terms of the Trump/Netanyahu deal are yet unknown.

If you don't believe Trumps narrative, then you have to come up with an alternate explanation as to why Netanyahu suddenly accepted the terms of the ceasefire deal that has been on the table since at least May 2023. Personally, I have not heard of a plausible alternate theory.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

No, I don’t think I’m going to form opinions based on conjecture. That’s how one falls down a propaganda hole

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

I appreciate your skepticism, but if that's your burden of proof, then I'm unsure how you would ever form a political opinion. Its conjecture and propaganda all the way down, mate.

The most scientific approach one can take is look at all the evidence, form hypothesis and alternate hypothesis, and determine the likelihood of each.

I do not trust Trump, and I certainly do not believe he cares about Palestinians. But the only hypothesis that seems to fit the facts is "Trump envoy applied pressure, Bibi capitulated". But if anyone has an alternate theory I would be interested to hear it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, well the non-conjecture fact is that Trump's envoy secured a ceasefire.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

conjecture
/kən-jĕk′chər/

noun
Opinion or judgment based on inconclusive or incomplete evidence; guesswork.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You sure are arrogant for someone who has been living in a cave.