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MEXICO CITY, July 18 (Reuters) - Precursor chemicals used by Mexican cartels to make the deadly opioid fentanyl do not come from China, its embassy in Mexico said on Tuesday, rejecting U.S. officials' accusations.

The embassy said in a statement that China had measures in place to prevent the trafficking of substances used to make illegal drugs, and added the U.S. was "blindly shirking its responsibilities" by not taking domestic action.

"The root of the fentanyl crisis in the United States is within itself," the embassy said.

U.S. President Joe Biden's administration has been seeking cooperation with both Mexico and China in stemming the flow of fentanyl, which has fueled a health crisis and a sharp rise in overdose deaths, as well as its precursor chemicals.

The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration says the addictive painkiller and its precursors are transported from China to Mexico, the U.S. and Canada, often by international mail.

China had denied the illegal trafficking of fentanyl to Mexico in an April statement, though it did not address precursor chemicals.

The embassy on Tuesday said China was "actively coordinating and strengthening" supervision of drug-making substances with Mexico.

The U.S. embassy in Mexico and Mexico's foreign ministry did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The Chinese statement, the embassy said, comes after recent comments from U.S. Ambassador to Mexico Ken Salazar and other U.S. officials.

Last week, the U.S. Treasury sanctioned 10 people with suspected ties to the Sinaloa Cartel's fentanyl network, as well as a company accused of importing chemicals from China.

"This represents a blow to (the cartel's) financial operations and illicit activities, since the company receives chemical shipments from China," Salazar said in a statement.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Literally the united states police force

[–] wimpysocks 3 points 1 year ago

Don’t expect them to have critical thinking skills

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

At least 61 shipments containing drugs worth thousands of dollars coming from countries including Hong Kong, Hungary, India and Singapore were shipped to Segovia’s home between October 2015 and January this year, according to the complaint.

Where's Hong Kong?


Secondly, the claim was that China prevents this from happening - not that their is zero domestic production of Fentanyl in the US. You've just tried to whataboutism something without even understanding what you're talking about, that's how kneejerk your reaction to seeing China being fallible is.

So yes, you've further proven the point that these chemicals are coming out of China with your sources, thank you.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

China ceased Fentanyl and precusor exporting in 2019: per the DEA lol

"As Beijing and the Hong Kong Special Autonomous Region (SAR) place restrictions on more precursor chemicals, Mexican transnational criminal organizations (TCOs) are diversifying their sources of supply. This is evidenced by fentanyl shipments from India allegedly destined for Mexico. On May 4, 2018, the Hong Kong SAR updated their drug law to control the fentanyl precursors 4-anilino-N-phenethyl-4- piperidine (ANPP) and N-phenethyl-4-piperidone (NPP) as well as the synthetic opioid U-47700. This matches China’s scheduling of ANPP and NPP on July 1, 2017. The move by the Hong Kong SAR is considerable, since synthetic opioids produced and shipped from China may transit the Hong Kong SAR en route to the United States. Effective May 1, 2019, China officially controlled all forms of fentanyl as a class of drugs. This fulfilled the commitment that President Xi made during the G-20 Summit. The implementation of the new measure includes investigations of known fentanyl manufacturing areas, stricter control of internet sites advertising fentanyl, stricter enforcement of shipping regulations, and the creation of special teams to investigate leads on fentanyl trafficking. These new restrictions have the potential to severely limit fentanyl production and trafficking from China. "

The 2023 claim is that “The root of the fentanyl crisis in the United States is within itself,” the embassy said. which is 100% true not only from the police gangs selling this but from the opiad epidemic perpetuated by drug corporations.

While the article i linked showing how the U.S police profit off the destruction of the communities they are sworn to protect the quote you referenced included 2015-2019, so the current article's claim is true the problem is within the United States and to shirk blaim to China is unfounded.

Add every fentanyl overdose to the black book of communism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting. Your quote says China controlled fentanyl, but states the precursors were restricted in the Hong Kong SAR, and they may go through the SAR.

Does China itself restrict the precursors? Or could they be making their way out through other routes?

China certainly helped get the ball rolling for the 4 years between 2015-2019, and then divested itself to some extent, which is driving the demand for other sources. I doubt India is going to stop exporting precursors anytime soon. Their pharmaceutical industry is insanely unethical.

Mexico is mostly owned by the narcos, so they'll "cooperate," but the fentanyl will continue to flow as long as they can get precursors. It seems the US has quite a pickle on its hands.

Hopefully, the crisis will die out over time? (oof, that's a lot of bodies) Unless the US pharmaceutical companies have a new, "non-addictive" pain killer they're promoting these days.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is evidenced by fentanyl shipments from India allegedly destined for Mexico. On May 4, 2018, the Hong Kong SAR updated their drug law to control the fentanyl precursors 4-anilino-N-phenethyl-4- piperidine (ANPP) and N-phenethyl-4-piperidone (NPP) as well as the synthetic opioid U-47700. This matches China’s scheduling of ANPP and NPP on July 1, 2017.

China started regulating the two primary precusors ANPP and NPP in 2017 considering them their equivalent of a schedule 1 drug (Administrative Measures on Narcotics and Psychotropic Substances without Medical Use) Here is the history of their drug control:

https://www.unodc.org/LSS/Country/DetailsLegalSystem?code=DLIL&country=CN

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for pointing that bit out!

So if this quote is to be believed:

"This represents a blow to (the cartel's) financial operations and illicit activities, since the company receives chemical shipments from China," Salazar said in a statement.

It looks like China is struggling to enforce their controls. I'm trying to think of a reason that doesn't boil down to a lack of political will. I don't blame them, though. They certainly have a bunch of more pressing, complex domestic problems (balancing environment, business, and social welfare). I would certainly shrug as well when Uncle Sam comes whining when those he trampled on are dying from poisons you've made illegal and are being produced somewhere else. It's not like any other nation can perfectly control their imports and exports. They probably are just denying it altogether to save face with their people.

I'm always surprised at just how capitalist Chinese businesses are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Lol, another user already showed how it’s still coming out of China.

Imagine that, you’re still wrong despite spamming a wall of text.