USpolitics

715 readers

18 users here now

founded 2 years ago

Would you support an amendment to the constitution that members of government can't receive pardons? (self.uspolitics)

submitted 1 week ago by x0x7 to c/uspolitics

17 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Pardons for members of government for actions they took from the seat of government just removes the public's ability to hold our government accountable. We already have too little accountability.

Further because pardons are more likely to be political in nature it allows for a regime to entirely protect themselves when and if they commit abuses of power.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] billiam0202 3 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Laws aren't always applied fairly, nor are they necessarily morally right.

For example, Alan Turing was convicted and sentenced to chemical castration for being a gay man when it was illegal to be one in the UK. Under a strict adherence to the "rule of law" this was the correct decision, but obviously the UK government was morally wrong for treating him that way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I didn't say the law was perfect - especially in the US! But I trust judges and due process more than I trust a single dude's whims in the White House.

If you need convincing, watch a bunch of insurrectionists roam free tomorrow.

[–] billiam0202 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't disagree. But if pardoning the traitors who attempted to overthrow the US government on Jan. 6 is the price for pardons ensuring that the people who tried to bring those traitors and their enablers to justice are shielded from the insane fascist who has already said he's willing to throw the resources of the US government against them, then I'm willing to pay it.

[–] x0x7 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If they had attempted to overthrow the government don't you think they would have gone in armed? This is the problem with the internet being politically bifurcated. The claims on both sides for what is reality get more and more disconnected over time. The echo chamber only rewards those who make claims beyond what has already been claimed and never rewards those who make a correction. Each echo chamber then has a steady velocity toward madness.

[–] billiam0202 2 points 1 week ago

So they broke through fences, climbed up the building, smashed through windows, assaulted the police trying to keep them out of the Capitol which was closed to visitors due to COVID, smeared shit on the walls, stole Pelosi's laptop, stole furniture, flew Trump and Confederate flags, and tried to break into where the votes were being counted to do... What?

That's rhetorical, by the way. I don't give a good goddamn what you "both-sidesing" fascist enablers think. The videos are there to see exactly what they tried to do. The testimonies from the Jan 6 Committee are there.

Also, they were armed with both firearms and makeshift weapons. So go fuck yourself.

load more comments (1 replies)