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[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Are you suggesting that "school shootings" are the only type of violence that should be stopped?

That rapes shouldn't be stopped?

That armed robberies shouldn't be stopped?

That burglaries shouldn't be stopped?

That muggings shouldn't be stopped?

You are specifically asking for a contradiction: An event that simultaneously occurred, and was prevented by an armed individual. I cannot answer your paradoxical scenario.

[–] MothmanDelorian 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

A better question is how many murders happened because of the availability of firearms vs how many crimes did the use of a firearm prevent a violent crime.

I suspect many many many more murders happen because of how easy it us to get guns vs how many crimes are stopped because of them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

That is, indeed, a better question.

But as soon as you go there, you have to weigh 1,220,000 reported violent crimes (most criminal violence goes unreported) against ~19,000 murders (virtually all murders are reported).

You're 64 times more likely to report a violent crime than to be murdered, and several times more likely than that to experience (but not report) a violent crime.

Guns are used far more often to stop those violent crimes than to commit murder.

[–] MothmanDelorian 1 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)

Your last sentence is impossible to prove.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 29 minutes ago

Indeed. Especially when virtually all defensive gun use involves the attacker running away as soon as they realize the danger they are in. These attempts are some of the least likely types of violent crime to be reported.

[–] kinther 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I never suggested anything of the sort. I asked a simple question of you which you don't seem to be able to answer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

I asked a simple question of you which you don't seem to be able to answer.

Correct. I specifically said that I couldn't answer it. Would you care to address any of the other points I presented?