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I realize you can just answer, "mysterious aliens beyond our understanding," but why would a space probe have a mandate of either talk to a whale for 30 seconds or destroy Earth and disable everything in its path on the way to Earth?

Why? What does that achieve?

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[–] dual_sport_dork 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (19 children)

I believe the probe was not destroying anything intentionally, but this was rather a side effect of whatever it was doing to attempt to communicate with the not-the-hell-your-whales. Once it did so and was satisfied it shut off its transmitter and went about its merry way.

I don't know why it specifically needed whales. Maybe some other similarly whale-like alien species would also have sufficed.

[–] theyllneverfindmehere 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I'm pretty sure Spock actually said this and this is the way I always understood it. Spock went on a hunch that it wasn't intentionally destroying the planet, it was a byproduct of looking for the whales. Maybe it had to look harder than expected and turned up the transmit power which is why things got weird.

"Hell of a way to say hello." - Bones, probably.

Edit: Yeah, "I find it illogical that its actions would be hostile."

Second edit: I just saw a thread the other day about the weakest sonar pings from Navey subs being strong enough to vaporize people's insides. Context I guess.

[–] dual_sport_dork 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I think the long and the short of it was that the writers and Leonard Nimoy were going to drive home An Aesop about environmentalism, no matter what it took.

There is also some parallelism here with the real world in addition to your sonar ping observation. For instance, I always recommend anyone to read "Last Chance to See," by Douglas Adams (yes, that Douglas Adams) and in this case the chapter on the Yangtze river dolphin wherein Adams and his crew (or rather, the crew with Adams tagging along) go to China to observe said creature. The Yangtze river dolphin was -- it is now believed to be extinct, but was not at the time the book was written -- functionally blind and relied on echolocation to navigate and, you know, not bump into things. Just through the course of normal river navigation there is so much noise in the Yangtze from engines and boat propellers that the dolphins were just about deafened as well as blind, which was probably a contributory factor to their extinction.

Humans didn't set about to blast the dolphins clean out of the water via noise pollution on purpose, but nevertheless that's exactly what we did just as a result of how our vehicles worked and without thinking about it.

[–] theyllneverfindmehere 1 points 1 week ago

This is a good take.

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