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    We need the game publishers to face more consequences for neglecting a significant segment of the market (lemmy.ca)
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    [โ€“] Voyajer 47 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Anticheats on Linux don't have kernel access... Have you ever heard of people needing to type their root password to launch a steam game before?

    [โ€“] glitchdx 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Anticheats on Linux donโ€™t have kernel access

    Yeah, I know. I'd like it to stay that way. Furthermore, this is also why games with kernel-level anticheat still don't work on linux, despite developments in wine/proton.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    We donโ€™t need kernel-level anti-cheat, because the bigger ACs already support Linux. The developers just have to allow connections from Linux clients.

    [โ€“] glitchdx 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    So all that developers need to do is...... have a linux version.

    To repeat something I sort of said in response to someone else: If a publisher is scummy enough to have kernel-level anticheat in their game, they're not going to give up kernel access just to appease a tiny minority of gamers.

    Take Valorant for example. The one thing I know about Valorant is that cheats for Tarkov don't work if Valorant is installed on your pc. This tells me that Valorant's anticheat is doing things at all times, even when the game isn't running, and I'm not ok with that.

    Personally, I recommend just not playing those games. I've been having a great time with warframe and factorio. If I really feel the urge for a competitive arena shooter, I'll boot up unreal tournament classic and play against bots. For those who don't like my choices, there's tons of other options. I digress.

    In order for OP's ask to actually be fullfilled in the manner I interpret to be desired, kernel-level anticheat needs to die alltogether. I see 2 ways for this to happen, neither of which are likely: A) Microsoft secures the windows kernel so that it can't be modified, thus forcing standard practice to change. B) Linux overtakes windows as the dominant pc OS, thus forcing standard practice to change.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

    Most of the anti-cheat software already has Linux versions. Rust could work on Linux today, all the developers have to do is have EAC allow connections to secured servers from Linux clients. They choose not to allow Linux gamers, despite the fact that EAC works for Linux already.

    Itโ€™s a conscious and purposeful decision to disallow Linux gamers.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

    Don't give corpos any ideas

    [โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Hu? You donโ€™t need to type root password to load a kernel module automatically , do you?

    I mean, do you have to type the root pw if you plug in a wifi dongle that requires an out-of-tree module?

    As far as I understand, you have to type root pw only for installation and update of the module and, depending on distribution, even that is not really visible since you type root pw to install tons of stuff all the time.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

    Let's rephrase: Have you ever needed to enter your root password while installing a game through a launcher such as Steam?

    How would that kernel module be installed if nowhere from installing to actually running the game did it have access to the kernel?