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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (6 children)

By the way, commerce is not the same thing as capitalism.

[–] Shard 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It's not but it can't be divorced form capitalism either.

A farmer does not produce grain out of the goodness of his heart. He's doing it to provide for his family's needs and wants, maybe new clothes for his kids or a new stove, etc. We work jobs to get paid so we can feed ourselves and our families and maybe buy something nice or shiny once in a while and save for retirement.

Production of commodities and services, profit-motive, capital accumulation, If that's not the basis of capitalism, I'm not sure what is?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Capitalism is private control over the factors of production. So you can for example have a socialist society in which the factors of production are owned by the community, but there's still markets and commerce.

[–] gerbler 5 points 1 week ago

One hurdle we have to deal with is the assumption by the general public that markets = capitalism.

You tell people capitalism has failed them and they worry that you mean to take away their ability to buy a latte.

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