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    [–] Sestren 113 points 4 days ago (20 children)

    Gnome does some questionable things, and some are just personal preference, but there is at least one thing that they do that makes zero sense regardless of how you use your system...

    The AppIndicator extension SHOULD be default. There is no reason for it to be an extension other than pure stubbornness. There are applications that literally require it in order to function at all.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

    There's a new Wayland protocol that probably will land in the next gnome release. The new protocol is supported by KDE and other desktops as well.

    The reason that it was removed is because it is extremely hacky and bad. There have been talks within the project to just reads support since the extension got so many downloads but the new API is better anyway

    [–] flavonol 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Would you mind providing a link or the name of the new protocol?

    [–] rtxn 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    ext-tray-v1 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/355

    There's no reason to expect GNOME to implement it, and I'm surprised they haven't NACKed it.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    It literally was developed by gnome. The merge request is coming from a gnome developer.

    You don't have to like gnome but it is silly to try to gate keep over it.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    "I understand that some compositors have no interest in allowing clients to show arbitrary content in tray areas. GNOME, for example, doesn't even have a tray area and it is my understanding that they believe that even the current SNI protocols allow clients too much freedom. Such compositors should not implement this protocol."

    --the page you're referencing, by the creator of the protocol

    [–] jj4211 2 points 3 days ago

    Which I find to be a weird stance.

    Gnome also believes that a window must have control over its own titlebar to draw it as it sees fit while simultaneously declaring it must not have control over a tray icon.

    Also funny that Gnome seems to have objected to KDE proposal and wrote their own even though they seem to say point blank that while they are dictating how all the other DEs will do it, they themselves will be ignoring it. Why get in the business of a protocol you don't even want to implement in the first place...

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