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[–] DarkCloud 17 points 3 days ago (6 children)

A famine that wasn't caused by the ideology directly, but by picking the wrong guy to run agriculture. It wasn't communism that caused the famine, it was Trofim Lysenko's unscientific ideology; Lysenkoism.

...plus Authoritarian Communism shouldn't count, amd the death tolls of Capitalism, Colonialism, and The Catholic Church have all been higher in total.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

... also:

the first round of starvation around 1920 iirc killed 6 million people because of social turmoil / civil-war like circumstances. it had nothing to do with the specific political ideology
ten years later, in 1930, another round of starvation killed another 6 million people, this time due to political ideology: basically they made "free market" illegal, and people couldn't sell excess goods anymore, so they made no money, and nobody cared about actually farming more than for themselves anymore.
ten years later, from 1930 - 1945, another 20 million were killed due to stalinistic terrorism, which had nothing to do with "communism". it was just a guy who clinged to power recklessly and caused a lot of harm that way.

so in total, only 6 million out of 32 million people died due to "communism" / non-free-market-ideology. the others died due to civil turmoil or dictatorship. for reference: the total population in the soviet union at that time was around 150 million people. IIRC

Also, it should be noted that one shouldn't look at these numbers in isolation. There's also a lot of gruesome stuff that happened elsewhere in the world at approximately the same time (or some time earlier). For example, black-african slaves in the US, mass surveillance and executions in germany, Irish potato famine close to England, ...

I have no idea why i just typed this i just wanted to. idk

[–] DarkCloud 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

So like the east indian company alone killed twice as many people as Authoritarian communism... As has The Congo Freestate (King Leopalds rubber corporation in the Congo)....

....so basically Capitalism has killed WAY more people that Communism, and that's just two corporate endeavors.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago

i don't know enough history stuff to agree or disagree with the stuff (India, Kongo).

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