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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The European Convention of Human Rights, the Council of Europe and its court looks after human rights, not the EU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Convention_on_Human_Rights

[–] Macaroni_ninja 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are right. My intention was to refer the whole of Europe as EU (which I know its incorrect) rather than go into specifics but regardless thanks for the clarification.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

No worries. There's so many councils, courts and presidents it's easy to lose track!

[–] Smallletter 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Question, do these bodies have teeth? And if so would these teeth exist without the EU?

My understanding of the EU is that the only thing they can really do to coerce uncooperative members is threaten to revoke membership.

So, if these bodies are not EU, and it wants to impose a sanction against a member nation, by what mechanism can it enforce that?

Just wondering.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, the ECHR does have teeth. The UK is still subject to its rulings despite brexit

UK is still a member of The Council of Europe, which is different to the European Council...

What is the ECHR? It is an international court, set up in 1959, to rule on individual or state applications alleging violations of the civil and political rights set out in the European convention on human rights. Its judgments are binding on the 46 Council of Europe member states that have ratified the convention.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2022/jun/15/what-is-the-echr-and-how-did-it-intervene-in-uk-rwanda-flight-plans

The EU cannot threaten revoking membership of the EU, there is no mechanism to expel a member state. There is only article 50 for the state leaving of its own accord, or suspension of rights

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_7_of_the_Treaty_on_European_Union