this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2023
338 points (84.3% liked)

linuxmemes

21387 readers
1295 users here now

Hint: :q!


Sister communities:


Community rules (click to expand)

1. Follow the site-wide rules

2. Be civil
  • Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
  • Do not harrass or attack members of the community for any reason.
  • Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
  • Bigotry will not be tolerated.
  • These rules are somewhat loosened when the subject is a public figure. Still, do not attack their person or incite harrassment.
  • 3. Post Linux-related content
  • Including Unix and BSD.
  • Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of sudo in Windows.
  • No porn. Even if you watch it on a Linux machine.
  • 4. No recent reposts
  • Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.
  •  

    Please report posts and comments that break these rules!


    Important: never execute code or follow advice that you don't understand or can't verify, especially here. The word of the day is credibility. This is a meme community -- even the most helpful comments might just be shitposts that can damage your system. Be aware, be smart, don't fork-bomb your computer.

    founded 1 year ago
    MODERATORS
     

    I use Windows btw

    you are viewing a single comment's thread
    view the rest of the comments
    [–] mafbar 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] LuckyLu 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    LXQt is something I would only use on ANCIENT hardware. I mean hardware from a while before 2011. It’s hideous and barely gets updates.

    XFCE is a weirder one. It’s very customisable but also doesn’t get updated much. In my experience it provides barely any performance advantages over KDE although it is smoother than GNOME on crap hardware, so there’s that.

    I don’t need either and wouldn’t use them unless I did.

    [–] mafbar 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Looking at all of these, it does seem that KDE is probably the best. Oh I guess it depends on the user, but still.

    [–] LuckyLu 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I use GNOME when I’m on Linux. KDE has had this bug for years now which makes working with a home server more annoying, and despite having grown up with and still using Windows I find GNOME comfortable.

    There are other options too. Budgie is derived from GNOME and made to feel more Windows-like. It’s very pretty. Pantheon is probably somebody’s favourite although I personally despise it. And if you like having a gorgeous backdoor for the CCP, you can use DeepIn.

    And if you vow to never again touch grass, you can even switch to a TWM such as Worm or Awesome. You shouldn’t, but you can.

    [–] mafbar 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    With Linux, you kind of have to fumble your way around and pick some stuff for yourself, like the desktop environment. It also depends on what type of user you are, and what type of work you do. However, I do want to switch to a tiling window manager like Awesome or Sway though. It just seems much more efficient and less resource-intensive.

    [–] LuckyLu 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    It’s definitely less resource-intensive, but that hardly matters on modern hardware unless you’re doing insanely fast computations and need every spare resource.

    As for more efficient, that heavily depends on what you’re doing. It’s mostly suited to programmers and maybe some writers, but if you’re looking to do graphic design, animation, anything like that… fuck no. Just no.

    [–] mafbar 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    That's true though, if I use any modern hardware, I'm not really going to suffer performance penalties whether I'm using GNOME or KDE as compared to LXQt or XFCE.

    I've actually never used a tiling window manager, so I don't really know how unsuitable it is for a creativity-based workflow like needing to design graphics or animation or video editing. Can you tell me why it's troublesome to use TWMs (or any WMs?) for that kind of work? This is just out of curiosity though, since I don't do that kind of work.

    [–] LuckyLu 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I have barely used them, so I’m not the best at explaining, but for me it boils down to a number of things.

    First, TWMs are meant to work with keyboard shortcuts more than with any mouse input. Easy for those to conflict with the shortcuts of your app.

    Second, compatibility might be an issue if your TWM doesn’t use a normal compositor. I don’t know how well something like Blender would render its UI on a TWM.

    Third would be that a lot of creative apps are not meant to be tiled by the system and have their own solutions for window management, which could conflict with the TWM.

    I’m sure there are more reasons. I can’t think of them just now.

    [–] mafbar 1 points 1 year ago

    That's persuasive! I'll stick with GNOME/KDE then. 😂

    [–] rambaroo 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    LxQt is actively maintained though? It's the mainline Lx project now instead of LXDE. I just upgraded Debian last week and LxQt went from 0.16 to 1.2.

    I find LxQt surprisingly powerful for a lightweight DE. I have basically no complaints. It is ugly af out of the box but it also has pretty good customization options so that I'm now happy with how it looks. It runs like glass on my old laptop as well.

    If I were using this machine as a desktop I'd use KDE, but it's mainly a server that I still want a UI for, so LxQt fits the bill perfectly.

    [–] LuckyLu 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    For applications like that it makes sense. But afaik it still doesn’t plan to support Wayland at all so anyone doing multi monitors can get fucked lmao

    [–] rambaroo 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    They're actually working in Wayland from 1.3. There some support already in 1.2. Otherwise I would've chosen a different DE because I do want to be on Wayland eventually.

    Basically I saw a brighter future coming for LxQt compared to LXDE and XFCE which is why I chose it.

    [–] LuckyLu 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I may be confusing LXDE with LxQt then. I was thinking of a de that’s basically confirmed to be on life support/maintenance only with no major overhaul planned. My bad.

    [–] rambaroo 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, LXDE is the one that won't be maintained anymore. Pretty easy mistake to make so no worries.