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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

AFAIK womens rights (such as voting) have been achieved by peaceful protests in multiple countries

[–] BaldManGoomba 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Women's social and political union in the UK founded in 1903 broke property windows and committed a series of arsons killing 4 people and injuring 25. In protest of getting the right to vote.Their demonstrations included window smashing, museum-painting slashing, arson, fuse box bombing, and telegraph line cutting.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffragette_bombing_and_arson_campaign

To get the word male in effect out of the Constitution cost the women of the country fifty-two years of pauseless campaign...During that time they were forced to conduct fifty-six campaigns of referenda to male voters; 480 campaigns to get Legislatures to submit suffrage amendments to voters; 47 campaigns to get State constitutional conventions to write woman suffrage into State constitutions; 277 campaigns to get State party conventions to include woman suffrage planks; 30 campaigns to get presidential party conventions to adopt woman suffrage planks in party platforms, and 19 campaigns with 19 successive Congresses. Millions of dollars were raised, mainly in small sums, and expended with economic care. Hundreds of women gave the accumulated possibilities of an entire lifetime, thousands gave years of their lives, hundreds of thousands gave constant interest and such aid as they could. —Carrie Chapman Catt, president of the National American Woman Suffrage Association.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That’s some selective quoting you got there, fella 🤣

The extent to which suffragette militancy contributed to the eventual enfranchisement of women in 1918 has been debated by historians, although the consensus of historical opinion is that the militant campaign was not effective.[113] With the aim of gaining votes for women still unrealised by the outbreak of war in 1914, the WSPU had failed to create the kind of "national crisis" which might have forced the government into concessions.[114] Historian Brian Harrison has also stated that opponents to women's suffrage believed the militant campaign had benefited them, since it had largely alienated public opinion and placed the suffrage question beyond parliamentary consideration.[115]

[–] BaldManGoomba 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Whether or not people claimed it worked or not. Every right in the world was claimed with some amount of violence. You don't get the peaceful protest working until after some violence or violence from other places for the same rights helping.

People claim MLK Jr peaceful protest won black civil rights to peaceful wash history. The government and world are trying to erase the black panther movement and the violence that was apart of civil rights.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Total claptrap.

“Just because historians say a thing I disagree with doesn’t mean I will stop claiming the opposite without addressing the content of their arguments.”

Brilliant. You’ve won me over.

[–] BaldManGoomba 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

....it isn't historians. But government approved learning programs in schools. They want to erase violence and normal people rising up. I never learned about the black panthers in public schools. I only heard MLK Jr. Sat at white bars and Rosa parks Sat in a bus then he held a march then it was allll better.

Oh you are the one with the link to 30 ways peaceful protest worked....that lists throwing tea into the harbor worked lol. Ok.

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