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No one is going to go through the decade-long legal immigration process to work on a farm for federal minimum wage with no health insurance.
"No one is going to go through the decade-long legal immigration process to work on a farm for federal minimum wage with no health insurance."
No one but the desperate. Its almost like allowing slave labor...
It'd be higher pay than what they're already getting.
But I have no problem with those workers no matter what their jobs are (I think it'd be a lil racist if I were to say that the only jobs these people are good for is picking crops). My issue is with the violent ones. I'd like to see a pathway to citizenship for otherwise law abiding illegals and deportations for the rest.
From what I gather, illegal immigrants are statistically no more likely to be violent than any other people, possibly even less so out of the fear of being caught and deported. Comments like these help reinforce the point about fear mongering over illegal immigrants in the right wing media, no?
I haven't seen the data but this wouldn't shock me
How?
https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/undocumented-immigrant-offending-rate-lower-us-born-citizen-rate
Evidently, they are significantly less likely to commit crimes in general. Though the study does state it can be difficult to make the distinction between legal and illegal migrants, it shows that both groups are less likely to commit crimes overall.
My point about fear mongering is that the claims of "violent illegals" is one of the more common things used to justify "mass deportations" in a similar way to how there is an undercurrent of fear regarding Muslims to be terrorists due to a vanishingly small percent of them being terrorists.
Of course, if you are able to make the distinction, then I will not say you in particular have been brainwashed by said propaganda, but I think the point is valid insofar as pointing out the initial claim you made is a commonly used one to justify being anyi-immigration.