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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (28 children)

This is one huge problem I have had with gun control advocates. In Canada they are basically banning all rifles that look 'military'. The problem? All, and I mean ALL semi-auto rifles now look like that. Even ones that still have wooden furniture like a pre-WW2 era rifle can have them swapped out for black polymer and 'look' modern.

Even lever guns are sporting serious polymer furniture that make them look like sci-fi western guns.

The definition of 'military style' gun was created in the late 80s when your average gun owner was still owning their vintage ww2 surplus rifle (from the 1960s to 70s WW2 era rifles were so common on the market that there wasn't that much room for anything truly new) that had that old school look while all new military rifles had switched to polymers and had protruding pistol grips.

The rhetoric has remained the same despite almost 40 years passing and a lot of basic changes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (7 children)

Unpopular opinion, probably, but if your hobby, such as hiking, sewing, reading, improv comedy... kills more children than car crashes, someone should be allowed to take a look at stopping that. Unless the hobby is guns, of course, of course.

[–] kava 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

if we're gonna ban stuff just based on deaths, we should get rid of fast food, soda, cigarettes, alcohol, and cars in general

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'd argue that food and drink, cigarettes and cars are already regulated more than US guns. For example, it's illegal to sell soup out of the trunk of my car in some jurisdictions where I could sell a gun under the same circumstances.

We can dive into specifics if you want, I'm sure you'll be able to find some examples, and counter examples, but I don't think that's especially a fruitful conversation.

[–] kava 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

argue that food and drink, cigarettes and cars are already regulated more than US guns

i'd disagree. of course, I agree that all these items are regulated. which makes sense for all the same reasons- a lot of people die if you fuck up. but you don't need an id and a background check to buy a McDonalds combo meal

I’m sure you’ll be able to find some examples, and counter examples, but I don’t think that’s especially a fruitful conversation.

maybe not but your example

it’s illegal to sell soup out of the trunk of my car in some jurisdictions where I could sell a gun under the same circumstances

I think the opposite is true. There's a ton of places I can sell soup, especially if it's pre-packaged and inspected by the FDA. for example I can go to walmart and buy a bunch of canned soup and sell that all day, no problem. In most of this country, however, you cannot just sell guns from the back of your car

sure, there are exceptions in certain states. for example a private seller who is not in the regular business of selling guns, there are specific states that allow you to do so with significantly less scrutiny than a dealer. although you still have the responsibility to do a basic check (is person old enough, what is person buying gun for)

beyond that, the overwhelming majority of gun sales go through Federal Firearms Licensed businesses. which conduct background checks and check ID.

tldr: if you're in one of the few states that allow it and you want to sell 1 or 2 guns out of the back of your car, OK. if you are anywhere else and/or you sell more than a couple guns, you're liable to get hit with some very serious federal and state charges. like potentially years in the federal penitentiary type charges

[–] orrk -1 points 15 hours ago

you don't need an ID or a background check to buy a gun, gunshow loophole baby!

[–] Shardikprime 1 points 17 hours ago

And some troglodytes in here would happily condemn billions to death by agreeing with that

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