this post was submitted on 17 Dec 2024
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Do we really need to do public shaming?
You're not the first one to point it out, maybe I should remove this post.
To answer your question, as I said in another comment, I wanted to use this example for when people ask “how does a public modlog make Lemmy better than Reddit”, which is a question that comes up quite once in a while: https://feddit.org/post/4920887/3235141
We also public shame mods all the time on [email protected], no sure why potential trolls could not be called out too.
the power tripping bastards community often goes off the rails and becomes a hate fest, many many many times, people just go there to relitigate and rage, and the brigading gets out of hand.
A few times we identify a real mod issue, but the current format is chaotic
Interesting.
While there are definitely issues sometimes (but then the mods of the community usually lock the threads), it's been quite useful to show how biased some moderation actions are sometimes performed.
It also allows to suggest alternatives. [email protected] definitely took off after a few reports about [email protected]
Sure, there is utility, but right now it is less about "did a mod follow the posted rules" and more about "do I agree with the rule".... which we have seen in the last week's news cycle, power tripping bastards has gotten super toxic.
The forum to moderate moderators needs strong moderation :)
Name and shame is a good way to discourage bad behaviors
Doesn't seem that effective if they can just delete their account and start a new one.
sure but most won't immediately trust the comments/posts from a new account so the user has to attempt to build credibility again
Either way, this system ensures that fediverse instance you're on provides users with the best and worst of the admins' and moderators' logic & beliefs.
The fact that fediverse provides this system by default means that users will most likely migrate towards instances that they trust the most.
Toxic individuals will rarely disappear for good but the majority of users will most likely be those beneficial to themselves and others on the shared instance.
Public shaming has been an effective tool to combat destructive social behaviors for thousands of years.
Maybe when you immediately knew who was speaking, but ever since people started talking with anonymous accounts, I think this belief needs serious reconsideration.