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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What right do we have? It's our imperative to spread not just ourselves, but life itself throughout the cosmos. Anything less would betray our base genetic instincts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So you're saying that life doesn't already exist in the cosmos?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's the thing - we don't know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's highly probable that we aren't the only life in the universe. The only thing that makes it impossible is we aren't smart enough to know yet, but most signs point to that we can't be the only life in the universe

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We only have one data point. Until we have conclusive evidence of life beyond this world, we need to operate as if we're the only ones.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because that's what we know! Now you're just arguing for argument's sake.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No I'm not. Just say you don't have an answer for that haha

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My answer is that we have to work with the best evidence available because informed decisions lead to better outcomes...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is that so? And what does "informed decision" mean to you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Making a decision based on the best evidence available... I feel like I'm repeating myself. Oh, I see. You're trolling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Is everyone who challenges your ideas a troll? Sorry. I'm still not trolling you OR arguing just to argue.

And let's talk about the best decisions. Did Vlad The Impaler think it was the best decision? What about Ghengis Khan? Kubla Khan? Nobunaga Oda? Mitsuhede? Washington? King George? The list goes on and on... So who's right, and who's wrong?

They all had the best evidence available, yet thought that the best way was to oppose a different idea

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Then what are you saying? That we paralyze ourselves?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What I'm saying is the best evidence available might not be the right evidence

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So when do we make decisions?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

All the time, but every aspect should be considered. For example, there was one commenter in this chain that mentioned the potential of bacterium on Mars. If they exist and we land on Mars then we inadvertently impact said bacterium and potentially impact Mars on a scale that we can't comprehend or at the very least understand. Is that right or wrong?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 45 minutes ago

Sure, we should consider the possibility of life on Mars. But we've already impacted possible organisms by sending spacecraft there. Even if you sterilize your craft in an autoclave and send it through the vacuum of space for months to years, there's no guarantee that all terran organisms will be inert. Samples taken from an asteroid during the recent Hayabus-2 mission were found to have terrain organisms on them. If you want to completely cordon off martian ecology, you should've convinced NASA and the Soviets back in the 70s.

Bottom line is, we've already irreversibly changed the course of martian ecology, if there is any. What remains? Check if there's actually anything alive over there. The best way to do that is with boots on the ground. The best places to look for life on Mars are:

  • deep within the crust, deeper than any robotic probes can dig
  • deep under the polar ice caps
  • deep in caves and lava tubes

All of which are much easier to explore with humans.