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Free will is a concept invented by St Augustine to get God off the hook for the garden of eden fiasco. There is nowhere in science that supports the notion of a self somehow separate from the causal nature of the universe.
The concept of free will is way older than Christianity. Even the story of the Garden predates Christ, as does the book of Job which addresses free will directly. And the concept of a "clockwork" universe is quite out of date too. Many phenomena are probabilistic while some phenomena have no cause at all (big bang).
st augustine didn’t even call it freewill, later catholic scholars came up with that bullshit.
If you are so inclined, reading up on compatilism might complicate the distinction you make between free will and the causal nature of the universe. ;)
Free will as an adult:
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Based off science the notion of self itself is a mere illusion. Wich probably is cause to the one of free will.
As for the causal nature of the universe, it's one of the strong hypothesis, but we don't have a definite proof for it.