this post was submitted on 10 Dec 2024
629 points (97.7% liked)

Showerthoughts

30787 readers
734 users here now

A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted, clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

Here are some examples to inspire your own showerthoughts: 1

Rules

  1. All posts must be showerthoughts
  2. The entire showerthought must be in the title
  3. No politics
    • If your topic is in a grey area, please phrase it to emphasize the fascinating aspects, not the dramatic aspects. You can do this by avoiding overly politicized terms such as "capitalism" and "communism". If you must make comparisons, you can say something is different without saying something is better/worse.
    • A good place for politics is c/politicaldiscussion
    • If you feel strongly that you want politics back, please volunteer as a mod.
  4. Posts must be original/unique
  5. Adhere to Lemmy's Code of Conduct

If you made it this far, showerthoughts is accepting new mods. This community is generally tame so its not a lot of work, but having a few more mods would help reports get addressed a little sooner.

Whats it like to be a mod? Reports just show up as messages in your Lemmy inbox, and if a different mod has already addressed the report the message goes away and you never worry about it.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

[…] That’s the point of the entire “it’s a real job” argument. Journalists are doing a lot of legwork once and we’re all relying on that job to acquire a lot of our information instead of all of us doing the same legwork again. The two problems we’re facing are 1) that this trust opens us up to propaganda from activist or opinionated journalism, and 2) that we’re no longer just getting neatly processed info that has gone through a journalistic process, we’re also getting a firehose of misinformation from many individual content generators over the Internet.

Those are both hard problems to manage.

I agree that they may be hard problems to manage perfectly, but I don't agree that citing sources won't put a dent in the issue. Take your first problem:

that this trust opens us up to propaganda from activist or opinionated journalism […]

Say you have an article that says "A young man stole a car.". Just as a very basic example, language like "young" is an opinion — it's not an exact definition of age and is left to the reader for how they interpret it. Such interpretations open the door for emotional bias. I think it would be a different story if the article actually cited the age, or simply stated the age with a citation for where they know it from.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

See, your point is exactly why the way you are thinking about this doesn't work. You're almost there, just coming at it from the wrong direction.

Yes, basic language choices indeed create an emotional framing to a story.

Basic language choices create a framing to a story EVERY TIME. You can't avoid it. Any mediocre professional can alter the framing of a story under any style guide, with any requirements for information sourcing.

Editorial guidance for neutrality can be enforced. By an editor. A human person that reviews a piece of writing and assesses its skew and its style to correct it if it doesn't fit the requirements.

But as a rule? Using citations? If the average journalist wanted to present a specific framing the guidelines you are suggesting would barely slow them down.

"A young man stole a car" "Man, 28 (link), steals car" "Man, 28 (link), of latino descent (link) commits crime in our town (link)"

Which of these is complying with your guidelines closest and which one is creating a more biased narrative?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

“A young man stole a car” “Man, 28 (link), steals car” “Man, 28 (link), of latino descent (link) commits crime in our town (link)”

Which of these is complying with your guidelines closest and which one is creating a more biased narrative?

That's a fair point.