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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

An absence of a clear alternative isn't a substitute for an argument that slaughtering corporate leaders will help the problem. There are practical differences between the circumstance of a wild animal literally fighting for its survival, and a member of a population being abstractly squeezed to death by systemic problems, in that killing is a clear immediate solution in the former but extremely questionable in the latter. Not bothering to acknowledge this makes it a bad argument. Also, all the other reasons I mentioned why it's a bad argument. Kind of reads like edgy highschooler cringe bait too, though that's subjective.

Maybe a better argument could be made, idk. But this one is dumb.

[–] TheFonz 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I hear what you're saying. My issue with your position is that Thompson is not a mere bystander or segment of the 'machine' that is killing - or in your words "squeezing" - other humans. Thompson, by his own admission, was actively pursuing mechanisms by which denial of care and ultimately death are effected. Why does he get a pass, I'm curious?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

My criticism is of the writing in the OP, and of Kaczynski's writing, which while contextually relevant, isn't actually about Thompson or even specifically health insurance.

To answer your question though, I don't think he gets a pass, ethically. But I also don't think justice trumps striving for better outcomes in society, and in fact it's the other way around. This isn't exactly being contested; the rhetorical focus is on means and results.

[–] TheFonz 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That's fair. I think that makes sense. I don't expect Mangione to be the next Thoreaux in this regard so I don't really focus on their writing. It helps insomuch as to glean their thought process but I don't think it's particularly relevant. I'm more interested in the ethics of harm reduction but yea, I get what you're saying