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Have seen a few posts popping up recently just straight up calling fo violence barely disguised as memes

Had thought Lemmy had chilled out a bit on that kinda thing for a while but seems to be coming back now

Anyone else noticing the same or just me?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A successful revolution takes a whole lot more than bloodlust and directionless anger. The emotion is there, but there is no revolutionary framework or ideology in place to direct that feeling towards meaningful change. This seeming "unity" is ephemeral, it'll be forgotten as soon as the next media cycle starts.

[–] inv3r510n 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No it won’t. Kill people’s family and they’ll spend years thinking of ways to get revenge. Multiply that by millions. Multiply that by desperate economic conditions. I am one of the people who lost a parent to these ghouls, and I’ve had 13 years to think about it. This killing woke up some deep emotions that aren’t going to go away anytime soon.

We’ve been sitting on a powder keg for a while. It doesn’t take many people to start some shit - a few more assassinations and things will change fast.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We’ve been sitting on a powder keg for a while. It doesn’t take many people to start some shit - a few more assassinations and things will change fast.

Things will change for the worse. We just elected Donald Trump and the government is controlled by conservatives. How exactly are you expecting them to react to CEOs getting assassinated? You think they're going to come to the table and work out a plan for universal healthcare, a compromise?

Fuck no, they're going to fight fire with fire. And they've already proved they can manufacture consent from average Americans by taking advantage of their stupidity to make them go against their best interests.

I'm sorry for your loss, but this nonsense isn't going to bring anyone back, it's just going to lead to even more suffering and violence.

[–] inv3r510n 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They already fight fire with fire. What’s your solution, continue to lay down and take it? Continue, for decades, to get anally raped with no lube?

As a bullied child, that’s not how this works. You fight back. Drones have proven themselves in Ukraine. A new asymmetrical warfare is coming and it’s best we catch these overprivileged shitheads while they’re still finding their balance in this new world the assassin ushered in. They need to be reminded they are neither invincible nor untouchable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm on your side. You're speaking out of desperation, lashing out instinctually.

But as I said before, directionless anger will not get you far. You and those like you will surely fail, and all of your rage will amount to nothing.

As they say, when you come at the king, you best not miss. As bad as you feel the situation is now, it could be far, far worse.

[–] inv3r510n 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You sound like you’re discouraging more assassinations. If so we’re not on the same side.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm on the side that wants to produce meaningful change for human society. I want to help people.

If you just want to kill people without thinking or caring about the consequences, then I guess we aren't on the same side.

[–] inv3r510n 2 points 1 week ago

How’s doing things the peaceful way working out? Make peaceful change impossible and violent revolution is inevitable. Our leaders fucked around for 40+ years now they’re gonna find out.