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I have an economics teacher that made this claim in class yesterday. I wanted to know other people’s thoughts about it.

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[–] rational_lib 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

All property is a social construct and is defined by law. So if the law says debt is no longer valid, then the loan agreements cease to be property and there is no stealing it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's like saying if there was no law against theft I could drive away with your car, and that's not stealing. I don't think your argument is very convincing.

[–] rational_lib 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If the law said my car is no longer my property, then driving away with it would cease to be stealing, correct. What is property without legal, government-backed title? There's no way to formulate a definition, because without government and laws property has no meaning.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Property has existed before laws existed to enforce it. It was enforced with violence. Stealing is still stealing even if there's no law against it.

[–] rational_lib 2 points 3 days ago

And if there was a disagreement about whose property was who's? With no laws to settle it, it would just be determined by who grabs said property and runs off with it first. That's indistinguishable from a free-for-all.