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Seriously though, don't do violence.

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[–] Jimmyeatsausage -2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Neither. I'm actually pretty well aware of the harms caused by places I've worked, including in the US military. I've even left places when I couldn't square that circle. I figured the comment would get some heavy down voting because I know how most of the world is looking at the scenario. I felt some schadenfreude watching the guy get gunned down, too. My perspective is that I see the left committing a lot of the same logical fallacies typically committed by the right in this scenario. It feels a little too close to "well, the cops wouldn't have shot him in the back if he just complied" or "Palestinians elected terrorists so they're all terrorists and gldeserve whatever they get" arguments to me. I try to practice the Principal of Charity, and I don't have any good evidence that this man was cackling with glee while personally slamming a big red "DENIED" stamp on grannies chemo medicine claims. If he'd approved every claim, he would be fired, and they'd bring someone else in to deny the claims. I'm not defending the insurance industry or capitalism for-profit healthcare, but I worry more generally about society normalizing or celebrating violence.l and where that's moght take us.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

I’m not defending the insurance industry or capitalism for-profit healthcare, but I worry more generally about society normalizing or celebrating violence.l and where that’s moght take us.

society already normalizes and celebrates violence plenty. it just doesn't tend to normalize it or celebrate it against the people who actually deserve it, pretty much apparently until a couple days ago when everyone sort of collectively seems to have realized that they all agree.

[–] surph_ninja 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You are absolutely defending them. You’re defending them from individual accountability for their part in mass murder and suffering. As if them working to spread out the blame erases individual accountability.

And you comparing this monster to victims of police violence and genocide is fucking disgusting and shameful. The ‘reverse victim and offender’ piece of DARVO.

It sounds like you still haven’t figured out how to square that circle.