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[–] dingus 19 points 1 month ago (12 children)

When choosing an instance, it is not necessarily overtly advertised as such. It's just one of the largest instances, so many "regular" people are obviously going to pick it. New users are not going to be intimately familiar with the elaborate politics of federated Lemmy servers upon first arrival. It would be a bit bizarre to expect them to be.

[–] lurklurk 7 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Sure, and anyone can walk into a nazi bar. But with threads like this being fairly common, and ML people behaving as they do, you have every chance to realise pretty quickly and leave

Hell, ML people are bad enough that I imagine a lot of sane people leave lemmy entirely, if they pick an instance that hasn't defederated ML yet. I'm looking at alternatives myself as getting associated with these types of people isn't a great idea, and the lemmy developers are part of the problem

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No doubt many have tried the fediverse and walked away because of Lemmy.ml/hexbear.

I don't even admit that I use it as is because of the propaganda. I'm still hopeful for the future but my enthusiasm is dying.

[–] lurklurk 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Same, I can't recommend lemmy to friends or coworkers because of this. Mastodon is much better at this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Maybe I'll switch to Mastadon. I find myself going back to Reddit as often as using Lemmy these days, so maybe it's time.

I suspect everyone switching won't solve the problem. Seems unavoidable that open-access, anonymous social media will be a target for propaganda any time it becomes popular. If everyone leaves for Mastadon, the shills and their LLMs will move over there.

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