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So I've been trying to use Jellyfin for a long, LONG time now, and I've never really been able to use it remotely reliable.

I can go on for a long time about all the problems I've faced, lets just say that after years I can still not use it to watch something with the family because there is always something not working, I could start about hardware decoding having worked for a while and then suddenly without explanation no longer working, but lets start with subtitles...

I just want to have subtitles actually load without having to sacrifice a goat to whatever god is out there to have subtitles work. What is the problem that subtitles just 99% of the time don't work?

Worse, sometimes they work while watching a show, and a jellyfin update comes by and, you guessed it, subtitles no longer work for that show, even though they work for some other movies, sometimes...

I am a software engineer, I do loads of devops, I can find my way around, but jellyfin is just... I dunno what to do anymore. Is there a reliable alternative, perhaps, that actually just works?

I've long given up on the dream that I could have something similar to netflix for all my movies and shows that aren't on netflix, where I can scrub with images, for example, I just want to be able to watch a show with the family with subtitles without fiddling for 30 minutes to try and get it to work.

Current setup is google-tv with 0.17.9 client, and the latest docker server. Shows seem to have okay subtitles on web client, but on google-tv, every time I select a subtitle, I get a "subtitles loading" message, and then 10-20 seconds later a "failed to load subtitles" message.

Anyone?

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[–] PostaL 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I use Jellyfin on Chromecast, and I hear you about subtitles: if I pause the movie, or sometimes just randomly, subtitles starts time-drifting and randomly shows flashes of texts in other languages

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I've been using Jellyfin for over 2 years. My main clients are a Raspberry 4 and a Raspberry 5 using Kodi + the Jellyfin plugin. This combo has been flawless.

I also have an older Chromecast and I experience there similar problems with subtitles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah I don't have a raspberry computer to connect to my TV, but if thats the only way it will work...

Do these raspberries have remote controls?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Chances are very high that Kodi will detect your own TV's remote and you can use that! https://kodi.wiki/view/CEC
If that doesn't work, there are many cheap options.

I also use the official JellyFin client on my android phone with MPV as player and that also works perfectly fine. And the Jellyfin Media Player on my laptop is also flawless.

In my experience, the older Chromecasts are probably the only clients with problems.

If I had to buy a client device, I'd probably go with a Minix U22X-J (Max) or Ugoos AM6+ https://discourse.coreelec.org/t/amlogic-ng-and-dolby-vision/24738

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Apparently 0.18 client fixes a boat load of these issues, but I'll look into your clients.

Kodi is what you run on your raspberries?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes, Kodi (via LibreELEC) and then JellyCon on top.

For other Amlogic ARM devices, like the Minix U22X-J (Max) or Ugoos AM6+ I mentioned above, CoreELEC is the LibreELEC alternative.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

As per other user replies: the 0.18 client should fix most of that. Yay!!

[–] PostaL 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is this client used also on Chromecast?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Now yes. Subtitles seem to work reasonably well now but there are still loads of other issues

Main issue now: it keeps auto selecting the wrong language which is double but frigging annoying

[–] PostaL 1 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago

Ah, yes! Do NOT touch jellyfin while watching something with subtitles. You’ll have to start watching at time index 0 again, or it will simply not work.

With subtitles working this badly, is it perhaps possible that the devs focus a bit on this? Subtitles is literally step 3, after step 1 basic video, step 2 basic audio…