this post was submitted on 01 Dec 2024
120 points (90.5% liked)
Asklemmy
44005 readers
669 users here now
A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions
Search asklemmy ๐
If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!
- Open-ended question
- Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
- Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
- Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
- An actual topic of discussion
Looking for support?
Looking for a community?
- Lemmyverse: community search
- sub.rehab: maps old subreddits to fediverse options, marks official as such
- [email protected]: a community for finding communities
~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_[email protected]~
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
You people are fucking insane. You act like what the Muskrat is doing is normal and inevitable. No, a billionaire owner of a website losing his mind acting like an infant and going online publicly promoting and endorsing Nazis it's not the norm. It's not the inevitable Next Step.
How many ethnic cleansings has Facebook been instrumental in? I can think of at least one in Myanmar.
Large commercial platforms being absolutely evil is NOT unique to Twitter. Again I challenge you to name me a large social media platform that didn't either rot into a wasteland of scam bots or start committing atrocities.
Very bad people own almost everything and their solution to any rising star is to buy and ruin it.
Hell, I don't want to adopt a platform that's doomed to get as bad as Youtube let alone Facebook or Twitter. You've got to show me some low level structure that says "Here is why it can't fall the way the last ones did."
I don't give a shit about the Bluesky stock you bought. Bluesky is doomed, don't adopt it.
Ooh clever moving of the goal post there. Show me one example of Mark Zuckerberg posting to Facebook about how awesome a literal Nazi is. Personally unblocking said Nazi , and endorsing their message . That's the discussion buddy.
Okay, you have issues. Or are a troll. Or are a troll with issues.
I consider Twitter a dead platform because it is a nazi hellhole and I strongly recommend everyone just stop using it.
At this point though I do genuinely believe Facebook is worse because they've had a direct hand in at least one ethnic cleansing during my lifetime. Elon may quack like a duck but Zuckerberg swims, flies and waddles like a duck. I strongly recommend everyone just stops using Facebook and Instagram as well.
BUT ANYWAY, let me ask this: What's stopping Elon Musk from buying Bluesky, badging it as X2 and doing the whole thing over again? Bluesky is currently a private for-profit company operating mainly on venture capital, just like Twitter was when it was a startup. It's never going to support itself on its own revenue, that venture capital will eventually run out, there will be an IPO, it will suddenly be open to the whims of shareholders who will demand dark patterns and engagement at all costs and everything that has made the rest of the internet suck and they won't care if their algorithms boost genocidal messages that erupt in widespread violence as long as their dividends come in.
It's just a nope from me, and everything you will ever say will further convince me.
You realize the entirety of your argument here is that yeah sure Twitter might be full of Nazis and pedophiles and all that terrible stuff right now but Blue Sky could be later in the future if certain unlikely things happen? Do you realize what an absurd argument that is?
Nope. My argument is not absurd because not using any of them is an option. You realize that's a thing you can do, right? Give none of them your attention?
What on earth does that have to do with anything? That was never the topic of discussion. You said they were the same. I said they're not the same as one doesn't literally endorse and promote Nazis, you said yet. As if it is an inevitability, even ignoring the fact that who cares what could possibly happen in a nebulous hypothetical future, right now they're clearly not the same. You're just an absurd person.
I'm not sure why you want to try and normalize and trivialize the idea of promoting Nazism on a website.
I was right, you're a troll. Eat sand.