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What makes a "good vegan", and how can I be one? (feddit.online)

submitted 4 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hey all,

So I recently decided to go vegan. My personal reasons for ditching animal products were because of environmental factors, animal welfare, and trying to maintain consistency with the values I hold to their logical ends.

I was curious. I've seen a lot of hate towards vegans online, admittedly being someone who partook in that several years ago myself to a small degree. While I'm glad and very lucky people I know closely have been making accommodations for me, I'm also worried about mentioning or bringing it up to people I'm getting to know since I don't want to rub them the wrong way if they possibly have these notions that being vegan and veganism are a bad thing. Namely when it's relevant in conversation like people asking me why I read ingredients lists or can't have something they're offering me, which I've been half-lying attributing to food allergies and intolerances out of worry (I'm lactose intolerant, which helps as a cop-out).

I'm wanting to know what people dislike about vegans, whether they're based on previous experiences they've had, or preconceived notions, and what would make someone a "good vegan" in their eyes. I know I shouldn't be a people-pleaser, but knowing this stuff would definitely help me gain the confidence to be more open about myself and my personal values to others who don't necessarily share said values.

Thanks in advance, I'll try to respond where possible, but it's going to be a busy day for me, though I do read all replies to posts I make.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Honestly I don't care what you want to eat. It's your body, you can shove whatever you like into it.

Where vegans become a problem is where they're being evangelical about their beliefs and trying to force their audience to feel the same shock and horror as they feel when contemplating the meat industry. If all I hear from you is restricted to when I offer you food and ask if you have any dietary requirements, and is of the form "I'm vegan", that's absolutely fine. If we're friends I'll adjust the menu for you, although you might have to accept it's only your plate that gets veganified.

You going "eww" and talking about "rotting corpses" or whatever is where it becomes a problem. If I've asked, obviously I've brought your response upon myself but you should still tone it down for the non-vegans. "I've looked into the meat industry and I didn't like what I saw" would be a good first response; make sure not to release any gory details unless people are really pressing you for that level of detail.

That said, none of this is based on actual experience of offensively evangelical vegans. I've heard they exist but haven't met one yet. I've known some people for quite a while before finding out they're vegan, veggie or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

It's not a belief. Animals being sentient is a fact. Animal agriculture being inefficient and wasteful is a fact. Animal products not being necessary for our survival is a fact.

Now you could argue that killing sentient beings is OK, but then that's a weird moral position. And nevertheless, not a belief

[–] Jon_Servo 2 points 3 days ago

"This is how you should advocate for veganism. I should know because it didn't work for me."