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I see what you're saying. If progressives do this, what do you suggest? Are you left of progressives? Sorry, I'm new to actively participating in these types of conversations. I want to help fight the status quo, hang billionaires and take care of marginalized peoples.
I'm way left of progressives. They should have a voice but they need to understand this isn't their movement to lead, most times they get in the way.
There aren't enough leftist to be a movement. Accept less than perfect and you'll get progress.
That sounds a lot like liberal 'shut up and do as you are told' People have done that for decades and the only people things get better for are the rich.
We don't want perfection, we want equality and equity
And then you'll continue to get nothing while your opposites succeed at the game. You think evangelicals don't want perfect authoritarianism? Of course they do. But they're smart enough to know that they can only get there inch by inch by working with the middle over time, and not seeming extreme.
You can either get over yourself and work strategically, or you can continue to fail against those that do.
And as your pride prevents the former, we slide farther right. But go on, stomp your feet about it. Maybe this time it'll help.
Your comment still screams of BlueMAGA bullshit. Liberals are the biggest obstacles to progress and are enablers of fascism. They are toxic to movements
shrug I can't make you successful
Even your reply is condescending and is minimizing the struggle of other people. You're implying that the only way to achieve success is to do it the liberal way. And despite liberals doing it the same way for decades, your material conditions are identical to my material conditions. States like California with a bulletproof Democrat super majority do not have any better material living conditions than someone in a red State like Alabama
The only way to achieve success is together. You can either meet them in the middle, or change their minds.
Unless you know another way?
Liberals are incapable of compromise. We've tried it their way for decades and their method doesn't work. They are right wing reactionaries.
So that's a "no" to having another way? Sounds like you think your goals are impossible to achieve.
My goals do not include negotiating with people fighting against the working class
Cool cool. Just so long as we're both understanding that you have failed. If you've made peace with that failure, and it seems you have, then you shouldn't be so annoyed at the world. Accept what it is since you know you can't change it. It's better for your own health.
I have not failed and will keep fighting
Ok, how? And how's it going?
Asks the people that wanted a party who welcomed war criminals, voted with Trump 75% of the time, embraced cops and zionists while throwing trans and marginalized people under the bus.
How's that going?
Agitators like you is why we don't trust liberals.