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[–] chaogomu 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My main take on Tankies is that they're sort of stealth right-wingers.

They believe that the way to communism is through a strongman dictator who will enforce the communism from the top.

If you sub out communism for "social hierarchies" then you have the right-wing wet dream. Because Tankies worship Lenin, the man who betrayed the revolution to seize power after he lost an election. It was the first and last free election in Russia, and Lenin ignored the results because he lost. Then he spent the rest of his life pretending that an authoritarian dictatorship could ever be communist.

No, true communism needs to come from the people. Extreme democracy is the way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you sub out communism for “social hierarchies” then you have the right-wing wet dream.

If you replace "the abolition of social hierarchies" with "the reinforcement of social hierarchies," it makes left wing people sound just like right wing people 🤔

[–] chaogomu 0 points 19 hours ago

My point is that Tankies love dictators and hate democracy.

Which is the antithesis of communism.

Communism is much closer to a worker co-opt than anything else.

Dictators who seize the means of production are just kings in disguise. That's Feudalism. It's a step backwards.

[–] Quadhammer 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Turns out when 90±% of people when put into power have to grapple with their own morals and outside pressures they conform to what the situation calls for right then or use it for their own gain. You're never going to get to utopia when there's so much disfunction and division in the human experience

To me the tankies are almost like nazis in that regard that they want to force the issue and create a new world RIGHT NOW. When there are going to be a billion different factors that are going to counter act that notion and with prejudice