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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ahh, yes. There's no upfront investment, skill, free time or anything more than a regular job. Nothing is stopping anyone.

[–] damnedfurry 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, all of those things are why you don't get, nor are entitled to, 100% of the value created when you work for a business you didn't create. Your labor wouldn't create the value it does without the infrastructure you're working within. Infrastructure that none of your resources went into creating or maintaining.

And in addition, as a regular worker you're also not on the hook if the business is not profiting. Amazon existed for over a decade without turning a profit, but its employees still got paid that whole time.

That's the trade-off. Work for yourself, or understand that is a combination of your labor and your employer's infrastructure that makes your labor as valuable as it is, and that therefore neither side is entitled to 100% of that value.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, we know. And it's also why "nothing is stopping you" is just a lie

[–] damnedfurry 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

That's my point. There's no legal barrier, but it's not so easy to put all that in place. Most people are straight up incapable of it.

Those people should stop complaining that they don't get 100% of the value they obviously are not 100% responsible for creating, when they labor within a framework built and maintained by others, with others' resources, said framework being the primary reason that their labor is valuable to begin with.

You can get paid for digging a hole where the one who's paying wants you to, but no one's gonna pay you for digging random holes in your own backyard no one but you wants there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That's not nothing then, stop lying. Just say "it's perfectly legal to start your own business alone or together when you don't like the jobs available to you" or something

[–] damnedfurry 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Or you can understand that I obviously was talking about legality the whole time and not obsess over an irrelevant semantic detail in a desperate attempt to evade the actual substance of what I said.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Or you can not presume we can read your mind in the first place. This might be obvious now, but you were dead wrong