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cross-posted from: https://mastodon.uno/users/rivoluzioneurbanamobilita/statuses/113485559637864463

La soluzione al #traffico era già nota nel 1927

In un manifesto dell'azienda di trasporto di Wichita Falls, si chiede di dare priorità al trasporto di massa, perché molto più efficiente: in un #tram possono sedersi comodamente le persone portate da ben 28 #auto (con 2 persone per auto, stima ottimistica).

100 anni fa era già tutto li: problema e soluzione

@energia #mezziPubblici #mobilitaSostenibile

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[–] BluesF 7 points 5 days ago (3 children)

This is a good point. Especially because public transport comes out on top even if you consider them half empty, or cars full.

[–] udon 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Meh, I'm not in for comfortable as in "I have two seats for myself". More like: It's fucking awesome to drive by bus, because you can sleep (horizontally!), have a meal together, work/have a video call, have sex, store your gym bag, whatever you may come up with. Luxury for the masses at a higher quality than you can do all these things in cars at the moment. That is what I want to see, not the sad future where we all just sit on regular buses like we do now. I think we need to demand higher standards.

Japan is experimenting with some of those things much more than European countries. The "luxury" type night buses are quite comfortable if you're not over 1,80m and thus exceptionally tall. Switzerland has panorama trains to enjoy the alps while having a snack with your friends (even if you're 80+ and can't hike anymore).

That, not the village bus that comes once a day, is full of vomit, girls get harrassed and all the other shit

[–] BluesF 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't really want to be involved in public transport people fuck on. But other than that you're describing trains. Busses are for short distance travel which I don't personally think requires much more luxury than a seat and a window.

[–] udon 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Well, let's put it differently. Cars are not just about going from A to B. Most use people get out of them is storing stuff and moving it without effort, safely. Public transport doesn't offer that. "Fucking" here stands more for a bunch of stuff that people do otherwise in cars that requires some privacy you don't get on trains.

The point is, trains are the minimum tolerable environment for most people, and already not tolerable for others