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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 month ago (2 children)

All these "why are people using Bluesky and not Mastodon" topics are starting to give me a headache. You've been told and on some level, I have to assume you understand the reasons, but are simply unwilling to address them. When people say, "it's difficult to use" instead of understanding why they think that way, you just dismissively wave your hands and say, "no it's not".

If you want people to use Mastodon, you need to SHOW people the power of federation while HIDING all the rough bits. People want to go to where the friends, writers, artists, scientists, etc. they want to follow are and sign up for an account there. Simple as. In this way, they very much want at least the appearance of centralization. I don't want to have to get balls deep in an instance's politics to understand their moderation, who they're federated with, if they have the funds to operate into the foreseeable future, and how to migrate my data if any of those things goes sideways.

[–] Jackthelad 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I remember when I first tried to use Mastodon and struggled with how best to make it work, so I asked what was probably a basic question to the Enlightened™. Instead of being helped, I was met with "it's easy, maybe you're just dense?".

Then I thought that maybe Mastodon doesn't have the kind of people I'd want to interact with on it.

[–] marx2k 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unironically, this makes me pine for the old days where usenet discussions were lively.

[–] Two9A 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mm, reminds me of the old world of IRC. I still remember fondly when I asked for help installing FreeBSD, and got banned with a message of "try linux".

So I did, never looked back. (Until I got a Mac at least, which counts as a BSD.)

[–] marx2k 2 points 1 month ago

That's kind of hilarious :D

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I've never see anyone respond with hostility to any 'how to' question on mastodon. What you've described sounds totally unlike anything I've seen there. So if you have a link to your discussion, I'd be interested in seeing how that happened.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think that if you want BlueSky like growth for activity pub... You federate with Threads. Or another hypothetical flagship where everyone is sent. Stop worrying spreading users around so much. People who join that network on the flagship can learn about federation and instance switching later.

I'm sure many people on activitypub would prefer that it grows more like it has though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

You federate with Threads

Nice try, fed.