this post was submitted on 13 Nov 2024
705 points (84.5% liked)
Political Humor
820 readers
1 users here now
Welcome to Political Humor!
Rules:
- Be excellent to each other.
- No harassment.
- No sexism, racism or bigotry.
- All arguments should be made in good faith.
- No misinformation. Be prepared to back up your factual claims with evidence.
- All posts should relate to politics and be of a humorous nature.
- No bots, spam or self-promotion.
- If you want to run a bot, ask first.
- Site wide rules apply.
- Have fun.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
No, it's the voters who are wrong. FPTP requires us to vote for people in favor of FPTP.
I WAS going to do SO MUCH organizing this time... if Harris had bought us time. But alas, all strikes will go to Trump's desk now so why even bother. /s
Even the referendum efforts slammed into a brick wall this year
RCV failed in Missouri, Colorado, Arizona, Nevada, Oregon, Idaho, and (likely) in Alaska. People don't like it as a system.
All the more reason to angle for approval voting instead. It's much easier to explain to folks - you just pick everyone you're OK with winning, and whoever gets the most votes wins. No spoiler effect since there's nothing to spoil, dead simple to explain to folks, no moving votes around or instant runoffs or any of that, fully inclusive of third parties and already supported by the voting machines you already have.
You only want Trump, just pick Trump. You want anyone outside the main parties, check every box except Harris and Trump. You want anyone but Trump, check every box but Trump. You just don't want candidate in Russia's pocket, check every box except Trump and Stein. Etc, etc.
Don't get me wrong. I like Approval Voting. But any time I try to explain the idea of "the most popular candidate winning", people get angry at the idea of populism.
Good point. Now I'm a different kind of worried. 💀
Doesn’t help when the Democratic Party campaigns against more direct democracy tho. When the Republicans don’t want it, and the Democrats not only don’t counter-message, but instead join in on securing FPTP, it should be obvious who they’re actually looking out for.
It’s time to admit that the party leadership does not represent us, and either have a palace coup and kick them out, or make a new party.
It's nice to see people discussing the voting system. Nows the time to talk about opening up the electoral system to 3rd parties right for sure.
If you get the chance, swing by my ask lemmy post to discuss how you and the people of your state can pressure your leaders into implementing electoral reform.