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The team behind menstrual health and period tracking app Clue has said it will not disclose users' data to American authorities, following Donald Trump's reelection.

The message comes in response to concerns that during Trump's second presidency, abortion bans that followed the overturn of Roe v. Wade in 2022 will worsen and states will attempt to increase menstrual surveillance in order to further restrict access to terminations.

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[–] TipRing 147 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

They say that, but when Ken Paxton subpoenas them they will say they have no choice. It would be better to use an app that doesn't store this data server side at all.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

FOSS Period Tracking Apps Exist: (there may be others, as well)

https://fossdroid.com/a/bluemoon.html

https://fossdroid.com/a/mensinator.html

https://github.com/TotallyMonica/foss-period-tracker

Also paper and pencil.

Also the oldest known "writing" is a stick with 28 notches on it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

How does an app being FOSS defend them from warrants?

Edit. Thank you guys for the details. I learneded something new today, much appreciated.

[–] gaiussabinus 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

FOSS implies it's your hardware, therefore a subpoena would extract no information because there is no information outside of the users device.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Interesting, thank you. I guess I don't know enough about FOSS then.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

"Free and open source software." It's an ethos that says that code should be free and open for people to use and improve as they see fit. The core of it is that if you modify any software that is FOSS, your software must also be FOSS. So overtime the software and what its used for improve, change, widen. Lucky for us, the movement has been ongoing for 50+ years, so it's a mature ethos whose benefits are everywhere. Most of the internet runs on FOSS. Lemmy itself is FOSS.

It doesn't necessarily mean an app is more private, but it does mean you can generally self host, as the commentor said. There isn't a profit motive with most FOSS, at least not at its core, so there is little desire to data harvest generally. There is also a heavy overlap between FOSS advocates and privacy advocates, so they tend to be more privacy conscious via local data storage or encryption.

[–] AliasVortex 9 points 2 weeks ago

Just to key in on the overlap between FOSS and privacy, because the source code for the software is open, it means that anyone can take a peek at how everything is running under the hood (among other things). It becomes possible to verify that software is storing data locally and properly encrypting when applicable (as opposed to blindly trusting the software's author and or lawyers).

It may also be a fun fact that best practice in encryption is to open source your algorithms. The helps safeguard against backdoors and mistakes/ errors that could compromise the security of the algorithm. Much for similar reasons as above, as it allows the security community to check your math (in a field where it is incredibly easy to get your math wrong).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok yeah, I understood everything in your first paragraph. The privacy part was what I was really asking about. So if you're not self hosting you're still at the whim of the person/company/whatever that is.

[–] ch00f 7 points 2 weeks ago

You could also argue that if even if you're not self-hosting (i.e. renting server hardware from a 3rd party), your data is still in a siloed environment. While it may be accessible by law enforcement if you are targeted specifically, it's unlikely to be dragnetted like the data collected from popular apps.

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