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“The American people are angry and want change. And they’re right,” Sanders said.

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[–] bassomitron 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

I love Bernie, always have and it's complete bullshit how badly they fucked him in 2016 and forced Hilary upon us.

That being said, this feels a bit too hand-wavy to explain Trump's victory. He won for dozens of reasons, not simply because the Democrats fielded a subpar candidate. Kamala and Biden both tried to appeal to Unions, defending them, and things like the climate change law and the CHIPS act are bringing lots of manufacturing jobs. The GOP has actively attacked unions, have passed laws in numerous states to weaken them. When Trump was president, his policies actively hurt industry in the long-term and passed a tax law that didn't benefit the middle class for more than a few years.

But yet... Blue collar people are tripping over themselves to vote for him. Why? Because they make empty promises while simultaneously gaslighting and lying to their faces, and they eat it right up. How do you convince people that the GOP hates them when they refuse to listen to reality?

[–] glimse 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

You don't have to convince them that the GOP hates them. You need to put your money with your mouth is and actually introduce policy changes benefitting the working class and publicize them in a way that even the dumbest person can understand.

Politics are complicated. The economy is complicated. Even completely capable people don't invest the time to understand them because they don't need to know the details about either to get by in life. Especially true if they're struggling to get by.

We need Bernie Sanders policies with Katie Porter delivery.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Politics are complicated.

People are fucking stupid and care more about in-group good-feels than reality or policy.

Many Trump supporters like feeling like they are part of a larger group. That's it. That's really, deeply, stupid. Like, dogs are smarter than that. But they see the symbols and the faces and feel good about themselves.

Some people are deeply racist or sexist and such, but a lot of people just want to feel like they're part of a group.

[–] glimse 2 points 1 week ago

What I said is still true. They'd care if they understood but they lack the incentive out ability to so they go with the flow of that they people around them say

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