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submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Currently downvotes are enabled on a trial basis, this was done by me to see if they can be enabled to prevent spam from rising to the top of communities, along with the fact that is another form of interaction/feedback.

However I've gotten some pushback for this and so I'd like to see the general consensus of this decision. Please put any comments/concerns in this thread, and please vote here: (Link gone poll is done)

the results of this poll and the comments will determine if we keep or remove downvotes again

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (5 children)

You are using "some people misuse a thing" as a rationale to get rid of the thing.

If someone posts fetish x on a vanilla community, they should get downvoted. If they post that same thing in a community about fetish x, then the community can simply be blocked by those so inclined.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If they post that same thing in a community about fetish x, then the community can simply be blocked by those so inclined.

The problem is the majority of people don't actually do that. They just downvote it to oblivion. That's a significant part of why they were turned off in the first place.

[–] thedirtyknapkin 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

by that same logic a use that sees content they don't like on a community they do can block that user.

is there a problem with content being posted that doesn't match communities right now? i haven't noticed one. the biggest problem on this platform right now is lack of content. downvotes, or any tool for creating explicit negative social interaction or feedback can make a community more hostile and less inviting. right now i generally see almost no posts on any nsfw communities that should get downvotes that don't just get taken care of by a moderator. right now we need to draw people in to posting content way way more than we need better tools to organize it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

the biggest problem on this platform right now is lack of content. downvotes, or any tool for creating explicit negative social interaction or feedback can make a community more hostile and less inviting.

Exactly this. We don't have enough content to give users the tools to discourage posting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is the important part:

Especially bad for gonewild posts where people's self image gets involved.

We don't need a "go away, you're ugly" button. That's what blocking is for.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hm... what if downvoting was weighted only 1/10th as much as upvoting? So a few downvotes here and there from people doing it wrong wouldn't amount to anything in others' view, but if a post is heavily downvoted due to being in the wrong community or low effort, that's visible?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Maybe? I dunno. Turning off downvotes seems like a pretty simple solution. Trying to come up with complex ways to make it hurt just the right amount doesn't seem like it'll work in all cases.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

If they post that same thing in a community about fetish x, then the community can simply be blocked by those so inclined.

Yes, they could. But that's not what's going to happen.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Believing that fetishes should be separated in their own corners and downvoted otherwise is an excellent reason to not have downvotes - or to just not post content in this instance anymore

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Separating things into their own corner is literally the point of subs.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Unless a community explicitly has a rule excluding content, and the uploads are valid there, downvoting something just because you're not into it just seems like entitlement to me. Its the same "reasoning" people use to get gay content outside of Rule34 or other general boards, because they find it "icky" (of course none of these people complain about lesbian content)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Having to enumerate every single rule on a sub would be horrific and more importantly preference can't be written into rules. What a community likes and doesnt like is based on the voting system, thats the fundamental point of Lemmy and reddit.

Thinking you can post whatever you want and expect all the exposure without regards to a communities tastes just because it doesnt explicitly violate rules is entitlement.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Seems like the divide is between people who actually contribute to this instance and post content, versus those who don't and want to decide what get seen or not. Question, when we are gone, are you going to start posting? Will you create and moderate communities? Or are you going to keep sitting and expecting poster to cater to your tastes?

Its pretty rich to sit on your ass, makes demands and still call others entitled.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I posted when this instance first started and there was nearly nothing. So yeah I would and did. I didnt complain about the down votes and wasnt demanding up votes either.

I'm entitled to nothing, posts or votes. You are entitled to nothing as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I posted when this instance first started and there was nearly nothing.

Why did you stop?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 days ago

Felt like the momentum of the instance picked up enough that it was self sustaining.