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Yo! What's wrong with wsl?
@Audbol @AgreeableLandscape
The linux community sees wsl as eee
What’s eee mean?
@porkins
Embrace, extend, extinguish.
It was an internal Microsoft term for bringing stuff under their umbrella
Interesting. I ran Mint for a while, but found that a lot of software that I wanted to use was in Windows, so switched back and have been using the virtualized Ubuntu with VSCode pointed to the file system. I haven’t had any issues with productivity and wouldn’t mind if MS went in a Linux Kernel direction like Mac did.
@porkins out of curiosity, what software do you need access to that isn't in linux? These days I am not really missing anything.
Hope you don't mind if I but in but yeah. Anything audio related is best kept on windows. Even with native developer adoption aside you still have to deal with stability issues and dealing with ALSA as opposed to ASIO is a real frustration point. Considering how often I find myself having some critical system issue on (insert distribution of your choice) when on the clock with the client in the studio, or even worse, on a gig where there is 0 time to troubleshoot software. Not to mention the solution for these issues typically involves having to reinstall the entire OS, this would require a lot of people to spend a whole heap of time and energy reinstalling, activating, and transferring settings back for their DAW's, plugins, and hardware.
@Audbol
Not at alll.
Makes sense. I haven't run into any audio issues, but I don't mess with audio all that much.
I wanted to use my DAC with different desktop versions of music services to get full lossless at the highest bitrates. I forget if it was Tidal, Amazon Music, or both that were having issues with Linux. Additionally, was looking through different video editing software and CAD tools where many were only on Windows.
@porkins regarding music streaming...idk I download flac off Usenet....
As far as video editing there are two that people use, davinci resolve, which is proprietary, and kdenlive which is FOSS.
As far as cad, your only good options are blender and freecad. Blender is mesh modeling, but I've been able to do precise mechanical stuff with a few addons. As far as freecad goes...idk I haven't used it.
There are open source alternative's that run perfectly in Linux for almost everything, and for games you can run wine
That hasn't been a thing for a pretty long time. It's funny that some guys are still stuck on that old mindset of Microsoft though.
WSL has worked perfectly for my use case of "I need Linux to interact with the cluster I work on at school but I don't have the time to maintain the hobbyist OS on my personal computers"
For what it's worth, a chromebook using crouton to dualboot xfce was also good enough for what I needed, so I'm not exactly a power user
My use case isn't too complicated, so your mileage may vary, but from my experience of using distros like Fedora (though I hesitate to recommend it due to Red Hat's recent bullshit), it is no less usable than Windows (and it runs faster too, partly thanks to the evident lack of spyware). From what I've heard, games without egregious anticheat works fine under Proton as well. You could always set up a Windows VM inside Linux too (Chris Titus has some excellent guides on setting up QEMU/KVM) if you need to but I never needed to so far. Tldr, Linux is as simple or complex as you need to be.
People just love to hate on windows, there doesn't actually need to be a reason.
Windows is spyware that you pay for, and that's reason enough for me. I hate Google too, but I have to at least admit that they at least give you pretty good free stuff in exchange for being spyware (at least that was the case the last time I used any of their products anyways, been quite a while since and given the current enshittification of many big tech platforms, wouldn't be all too surprised if they followed suit).