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What search engine is currently showing the most useful results? What other tricks do we have aside of adding "reddit" or whatever internet community to the results?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

At $10 it’s 1000 unique searches. I search a ton and have it on my phone etc. haven’t exceeded the limit. I am at 600 searches right now, with a renewal due on the 24th.

They are writing a search engine from scratch. They don’t just randomize bing or google searches. So I think you may be underestimating the operating and especially development costs, probably hosting costs too.

But to each his own. Also those streaming services you mention. They don’t really turn a profit, and definitely don’t on subscriptions.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

1000 is more reasonable but it’s still only 33 per day. I’ve done 52 searches today. $10 is still way too much.

How much better would a search engine have to be to make it worth the cost of a streaming service? For me, quite a lot…

But yeah I don’t mean to say your choice to pay for it isn’t valid. As you say, to each their own.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Understandable.

I think my point is for me and in my specific use case, I actually search less.

For example if I am debugging a process or working through some setup, I will often have to iterate through a series of searches with tweaks in DDg and sometimes even google. Using tweaks like site:some site.com, quoted portions of queries to reduce useless returns etc.

Kagi, again for me, had helped reduce that. I can’t often find a very quality source in the first query or two.

So the limit wasnt hugely a problem. I was actually VERY concerned like you because above 10 dollars is pretty steep. I initially signed up at 10, set limits not to exceed 15 and figured I would cancel and either submit a request at work for an annual or just ditch it.

Luckily two things happened that retained me. The first I already mentioned. The second was they bumped the quota to 1000.

Again I may still jsut see if I can get work to pay it out. But at 10 bucks it’s digestible, for me, for the value add. I also do no filtering. Just search whatever random shit I think of n the shitter in addition to curated work searches.

I’m not trying to sway you. Idgaf if you use it or not. Just trying to help provide useful information because for me, it was more “ehhh let’s see how it works out”

Finally, I have reached out to Vlad about suggestions and even corrections on things, both in the product and ancillaries (like their documentation). He’s responded each time and even corrected some of the issues. Which is really nice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I could actually see myself paying for the $25/mo option and leveraging that into a "free" alt-google that slurps up all your data for me to monitize however I can. Be sure to keep an eye out for it! :D

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are writing a search engine from scratch

They are using Google and a few other engines, but unlike Searx, they are using the official API instead of scraping, which is a big part of costs

[–] Snapz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Arguments like this would only be relevant if a subscription service's cost decreased globally as enrollment milestones were reached by their user population. Economies of scale kick in and you're not paying the same account... But we never see those sub cost decreases for some strange reason?

[–] grabyourmotherskeys 1 points 1 year ago

I'm really interested in a micropayment per search that scales like this. You would preload your account and get a rough estimate of search cost and could decide if it was worth it to you and also schedule searches to be done later at a lower cost time.