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I'm really enjoying lemmy. I think we've got some growing pains in UI/UX and we're missing some key features (like community migration and actual redundancy). But how are we going to collectively pay for this? I saw an (unverified) post that Reddit received 400M dollars from ads last year. Lemmy isn't going to be free. Can someone with actual server experience chime in with some back of the napkin math on how expensive it would be if everyone migrated from Reddit?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wikipedia is the 7th most visited website in the world, more popular than Amazon, TikTok, even PornHub. It's not funded by advertisers or other bullshit - rather through reader donations.

With that said, Wikipedia is still centralized content whereas Lemmy isn't. Meaning there's fewer expenses and pressure on any one instance or server to succeed. And if one instance or server doesn't succeed, your access to the Federation is far from over.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wikipedia is set up as a nonprofit. They have annual fundraising drives asking their users for money. They also have an endowment and receive grants.

A donation drive could be a good model but the decentralized nature of the platform would complicate things.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It doesn't have to be that complicated. Your server's admin ask for money, setup a method to receive donations (ex: Liberapay, Paypal, etc) and there you go.

If you raise more than you need, the community can vote to donate it to other communities in need, to the Lemmy or Kbin devs or to some charity.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It doesn't have to be complicated. It can be patreon pages for servers & instances you support, which is enough to keep the lights on. Especially if it unlocks a little cosmetic token or icon.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What happens to your account on a federated server if that one fails though?

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Then you need a new account I think. It's a limitation of the ActivityPub protocol I think (but I haven't done any reading). Your identity is tied to the instance it was created on.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

As someone who burned reddit accts regularly this doesn't really concern me. But if it really worries you couldn't you set up your own private instance with you as the sole user? Nothing is more reliable than yourself. Even corporations with millions of dollars can close up shop at a moments notice.