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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Big surprise of the day! /s

I think anyone who advocates for cycling and pedestrian safety have been saying this for decades.

This is also why it's incredibly frustrating to have things like permitting Idaho Stops being pushed back so aggressively.

It keeps cyclists safe, but motorists argue that "everyone should be following the same laws"... except that 99% of motorists are ALREADY doing Idaho Stops, despite it being illegal for them to do so!

And pedestrians who don't like cyclists on sidewalks. Yes, we get it! No cyclist wants to be on a bumpy, slow, narrow sidewalk. But it's safer than on a road without cycling infrastructure! If you don't like it, support bike lanes!

[–] lewdian69 7 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Are you calling "rolling stops" "Idaho stops"? I have never heard that and have lived on both coasts including WA. Interesting

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Are you calling “rolling stops” “Idaho stops”?

So, depending on the state, an "Idaho Stop" can mean a few things.

But generally speaking, it allows cyclists to use red lights like stop signs, and stop signs like yield signs - both provided that the way is clear and the appropriate right of way is given to anyone else at those intersections.

It's been around since the early 1980s, and several US states have legalized it. Canada - like, all of Canada - refuses to.

Idaho Stops not only make it safer for cyclists (proven through many studies over the last few decades), but it also decriminalizes cyclists who want to clear an empty, red light intersection where they would otherwise be stranded unless a car also stops at the red.

And with more people using cargo bikes, pulling kids on trailers, commuting, or running errands, it can save energy by keeping some momentum going as a cyclist approaches an empty intersection.

There are almost no downsides to permitting Idaho Stops, other than the need to educate drivers that what cyclists are doing is safe, and permitted.

since the early 1980s*

[–] apostrofail 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Noted and corrected 👍

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