For about half a year I stuck with using 7B models and got a strong 4 bit quantisation on them, because I had very bad experiences with an old qwen 0.5B model.

But recently I tried running a ~smaller~ ~model~ like llama3.2 3B with 8bit quant and qwen2.5-1.5B-coder on full 16bit floating point quants, and those performed super good aswell on my 6GB VRAM gpu (gtx1060).

So now I am wondering: Should I pull strong quants of big models, or low quants/raw 16bit fp versions of smaller models?

What are your experiences with strong quants? I saw a video by that technovangelist guy on youtube and he said that sometimes even 2bit quants can be perfectly fine.

UPDATE: Woah I just tried llama3.1 8B Q4 on ollama again, and what a WORLD of difference to a llama3.2 3B 16fp!

The difference is super massive. The 3B and 1B llama3.2 models seem to be mostly good at summarizing text and maybe generating some JSON based on previous input. But the bigger 3.1 8B model can actually be used in a chat environment! It has a good response length (about 3 lines per message) and it doesn't stretch out its answer. It seems like a really good model and I will now use it for more complex tasks.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

With modern methods sometimes running a larger model split between GPU/CPU can be fast enough. Here's an example https://dev.to/maximsaplin/llamacpp-cpu-vs-gpu-shared-vram-and-inference-speed-3jpl

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

oooh a windows only feature, now I see why I haven't heard of this yet. Well, too bad I guess. It's time to switch to AMD for me anyway...

[–] fhein 2 points 1 month ago

Article is written in a bit confusing way, but you'll most likely want to turn off Nvidia's automatic VRAM swapping if you're on Windows, so it doesn't happen by accident. Partial offloading with llama.cpp is much faster AFAIK if you want to split the model between GPU and CPU, and it's easier to find how many layers you can offload if it fails to load instead when you set it too high.

Also if you want to experiment partial offload, maybe a 12B around Q4 would be more interesting than the same 7B model with higher precision? I haven't checked if anything new has come out the last couple of months, but Mistral Nemo is fairly good IMO, though you might need to limit context to 4k or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Oh, that part is. But the splitting tech is built into llama.cpp