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The Cybercab reminds me in shape and utility of nothing so much as the original Google autonomous test car, the boob on wheels, but without the nipple of lidar. It’s a devolution to two-passenger blob, and equally useful. I was derisive of Google’s approach vs Tesla’s almost a decade ago, and I’m still of the opinion that Tesla has the right approach to autonomy across useful geographical areas instead of narrowly bounded urban areas obsessively mapped to centimeter-scale regularly by surveying cars. That Tesla’s journey has taken longer and will take longer still is somewhat a symptom of the weird challenge we have where we require autonomous cars to be perfect, but allow deeply imperfect humans to text and drive. But as a physical vehicle, the Cybercab is a devolution.

Clearly getting a family to school is not remotely something that was considered with this vehicle. No, the kids are supposed to each get their own Cybercab to go to their own schools, while the parents get their own Cybercabs to get to their jobs and Pilates classes. This is the top 20% of America’s view of utopia, where everyone in the family has their own car, even if they are too young to drive.

However, there’s one current silver lining to the USA’s requirement that everyone have their own car. 95% of the time, these cars are just sitting parked somewhere, and not congesting city streets. Cybercabs, by contrast, are always congesting city streets, even when they have no passengers as they drive to where passengers are likely to be, or drive to where they have been summoned, or drive to someplace else where they are conveniently located to be summoned. Cybercabs would be on the street almost constantly. While there would be fewer vehicles overall, they would be on the streets a much greater percentage of the time.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Added bonus: why put for my autonomous vehicle to park during the day? Just order it to circle the block until I'm done with work. It's not making traffic for me then and I save some money on parking.

The likely outcomes of truly autonomous vehicles read like a sociopath's guide to fucking up everything and not caring a whit about the side effects.

EV cars are one piece of the puzzle to reducing our carbon footprint. They're not a solution to traffic. In fact, they're possibly the worst thing that could ever happen to traffic.

We should require that before any fully autonomous vehicles can be used in a city, the car makers have to fund a world class public transit system of trains, bike roads, and reduced car infrastructure (fewer lanes, nearly no open air parking, etc). Then we can talk about them inflicting their sociopathic toys upon our communities.