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The Vote Socialist campaign stands unequivocally with the Palestinian people as they stand strong in the face of one year of US-Israeli genocide in Gaza. (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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For decades, we have been in the streets in defense of the Palestinian people, and will continue to fight until the total liberation of Palestine!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (7 children)

And I applaud your work - however, surely you must understand the risks of a second Trump presidency, given what you do.

I have already addressed lesser evil logic for supporting genocide. You can respond to that if you'd like.

And all my "supporting for genocide" amounts to is being stuck with a two-party system.

Incorrect. You can sit quietly under the two party system and be doing a better job than trying to vocally normalize genocide and get other people to think the same.

I only "support" it insofar as I must by the virtue of my vote going to the party that enables it (the only 2 with a chance to win do).

This also does not require you to vocalize normalizing genocide and telling people it's cool to support genociders. It also does not require you to tokenize trans people as if your support for genociders is somegow in solidarity with trans people.

I made my peace with choosing to accept that the US foreign policy apparatus is going to do these things regardless of which major party is in power

"I chose to help normalize genocide rather than work against it".

and the best option available of the two is the one that doesn't have a giant playbook for dismantling the few positive things we do have when they take power.

I have already addressed the illogic of lesser evilism. You have neither a personal moral nor strategic justification for what you are doing. You are not, in fact, "realizing" or accepting any kind of insight. You are repeating bog standard PR-tested talking points from the party and its supporters.

Contrary to what you may think, I truly do largely agree with many of the things being said here

No, you do not. You would like to feel like you do, but you actually work in opposition to them, and openly. You are not a friend or an ally of those facing genocide. You are a cheerleader for the genociders in power using their tired talking points. You are even being flippant and joking about genocide.

[repeating yourself with lesser evilism]

I have already addressed this.

[+] boywar3 -6 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Do as you like I guess, just don't be surprised if the planet cooks us alive before the revolution happens because we didn't try to minimize damage in the interim ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The genocidal candidate you are carrying water for is openly supporting fracking and continuing sanctions on Chinese solar panels (which has resulted in a massive backlog of installations that can't be fulfilled) during peak American oil production, resulting in it being a net exporter of fossil fuels. This is all a consequence of a political system where power flows from caoitalist class interests.

Yet something makes you believe that supporting the thing causing climate change is actually good and smart and "harm reduction" (even while literally being more measurable harm) and that I am irresponsible for organizing against it.

That something is propaganda. But unfortunately you are resistant to questioning it, even up to the point of supporting genocide. Personally, I think that should be a point where anyone should sat, "you know, I should really get my ducks in a row before sharing an opinion".

Alas.

[–] boywar3 -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And there's not a single thing the Dems have ever done that's good. Yup.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Look at the fantasies you concoct when you have no reply. You could instead just say, "I hadn't considered that and will think about it" or even not reply. But God forbid a person do anything but fight to the death regardless of merit, eh?

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