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Greta Thunberg is declared a violent participant for her pro Palestine demonstrations.
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By being violent?
I don’t think she was violent herself. The protest was small with about 400 people though. So she knows her comrades.
That's not how this works. This is assuming it was premeditated, planned, they went in to become violent. This in no way means she is or may become violent herself. Especially when we have to assume any protest has at least one or two rabble-rousers.
The groups that organized the protest are well known for their antics. Most leftist groups in Berlin don’t cooperate with some of them because they’re brain dead antisemitic tankies that violently attack leftist projects.
A protest under the “glory to the resistance” on October 7th glorifies the violence and massacre of October 7th 2023. Of course it’s pro violence.
This is false. The police is escalating violence at the prptests to paint them as violent. People resisting intimidation by an authoritarian police state, is a hallmark of antifascism.
Still the protest was much smaller on Monday than protests on Sunday with thousands of people, because it was Monday first of all and second of all the police heavily advertised their arsenal, including Snipers, This intimidated away some people like families with children.
Meanwhile a pro-Israeli "leftist" protest on Saturday only achieved 500 participants after mobilising for a month in all of Germany.
These "Antideutsch" are often called "Ultradeutsch" by their critics now because they are anti muslim racists, cheer on police violence and demand more slaughter of Arabs and Palestinians. They claim to be Antifa, while being deeply ingrained in the German state and its suppression systems. They often hold positions in political think tanks, "antidiscrimination" NGOs and cultural institutions. Aside from racism there they perpetrate antisemitism against Jews critical of Israel by cancelling them, taking away their funding or in cases like the "bajszel" bar, violently throw them out at events supposedly about preventing antisemitism.
These political groups have created a weird zombie of marxist ideas and try to redeem themselves from the guilt of their nazi grandfathers, not by not being violent bigots, but by using israel as their nationalist pride and brown people as their targets.
Luckily they are a fringe group by numbers, but because they are coopted by the state and mainstream actors they have disproportionate funding, attention and political power.
Just often what you call "critical of Israel" is actually being against the very existence of Israel. Also I know plenty of Antideutsche. While some can be pretty unhinged, there are plenty who aren't anti-Muslim or anti-Arab. I have been to protests that had both Israeli and Palestinian flags.
Both Israel and Palestine have a right to exist and both have a fair amount of issues that need to be criticized. Just I often see the criticism be unfairly biased depending on which side you ask.
Tankies marching with ultranationalists and Islamists calling for violent destruction of Israel is more like it. Peaceful coexistence isn’t on their list of demands.