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I'm going to move away from lastpass because the user experience is pretty fucking shit. I was going to look at 1pass as I use it a lot at work and so know it. However I have heard a lot of praise for BitWarden and VaultWarden on here and so probably going to try them out first.

My questions are to those of you who self-host, firstly: why?

And how do you mitigate the risk of your internet going down at home and blocking your access while away?

BitWarden's paid tier is only $10 a year which I'm happy to pay to support a decent service, but im curious about the benefits of the above. I already run syncthing on a pi so adding a password manager wouldn't need any additional hardware.

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[–] april 123 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Because when whatever company gets a data breach I don't want my data in the list.

With bitwarden If your server goes down then all your devices still have a local copy of your database you just can't add new passwords until the server is back up.

[–] markstos 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

1Password’s security model guards against this. Even if they are breached, your passwords cannot be decrypted.

You are more likely to screw up your own backups and hosting security than they are.

[–] april 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

LastPass said the exact same thing. I won't be a big target like they will though.

[–] markstos 4 points 1 month ago

LastPass doesn’t have your password, so it can’t be stolen during a breach.

But 1Password goes a step further, also requiring a “secret key”, which also can’t be stolen.

https://support.1password.com/secret-key-security/

Even if an attacker manages to steal your encrypted data from 1Password and also guess your master password, they still can’t access your data without a secret key.

For that reason, your 1Password account is more likely to compromised through your own device, not their server. And if your own devices are thoroughly compromised, no password manager can save you— the attacker can potentially grab all you type and see all you see.

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