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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Was it alt-right or communism for you?

I started as alt-right, realised I actually like queerness. Then I went communist, realised murder is childish and how much I was being played and then decided to do my own thing.

[–] IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION 41 points 1 month ago (3 children)

well. to my everlasting shame it was the very website this post features. I got hooked in when it was still part of reddit. I was an angry young adult coming out of a terrible home situation and their collective "righteous fury" was appealing. after the move to a separate website, it just got worse and worse. hexbear, formally known as chapochat, had destructive drama outburtsts every single week right from the start.

I think it started with thousands of active users and rapidly dwindled down to only a few hundred because of how hostile and rigid it was. I was one of the few who stuck around because my warped sense of the world didn't reveal how bad it was yet. I thought about quitting during many of these ridiculous "struggle sessions" as they called them. but something kept me hooked.

when the current ukraine-russia war started, the cracks were widening. a subsection of hexbear started to dominate. they were more openly bloodthirsty. they stopped pretending to care about the common people, which is what I cared about, and were cheering on the killing of civilians and conscripted soldiers. they posted videos of ukrainians getting shot and blown up accompanied with the site's absurd emojis and weird in joke phrases. they were also just extremely hostile to anyone who wasn't lockstep with their view. they would use vicious insults and accusations against naysayers and the mods would almost always rule on their side.

I rarely ever participated in the arguments up to that point because I didn't see a reason to, but I got in fights with people about this. they were treating war like a football game and it really rubbed me the wrong way. but then that subsection of the site started to contain themselves mostly to the "news megathread" which I could easily ignore.

I became less and less interested in hexbear as time went on. I think other people were noticing these disturbing trends too because the number of active users dwindled down to around 150-200. the remaining users were the worst of the worst. so fucking mean and nasty, in that abusive family type of way. they proclaim themselves to be friendly, proclaim hexbear to be a welcoming and caring community, tightly knit, when behind the curtain they are horrible to each other. of course I had only ever known that type of life so I didn't see it for what it was and continued to use the site.

I finally had a breakthrough internally and got the courage to go to therapy and try to reckon with the damage my upbringing did to me. and once that started to work, hexbear's rose tint rapidly faded.

now I look back on my several years as a hexbear user with so much embarrassment. I can't believe how much hatred was in my heart. I try to forgive myself and remember that I was young and broken and taken advantage of by malicious people online but I was old enough to know better. once in a while I'll check hexbear out just to remind myself of how much I've grown and improved. I see people in there who claim to be in their 30s and 40s and i feel disgust at how they are manipulating young adults and even kids as we see here. I feel sad for them too. I don't think anyone that old would be part of such a group if they didn't have a seriously damaged worldview.

wow. sorry to dump on you. just seeing someone so young get roped into hexbear brought up a lot of feelings.

[–] pennomi 11 points 1 month ago

Thank you for sharing, that’s a meaningful experience that might help people in a similar situation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

my experiences aren't nearly as intricate as yours. For me, it was gamergate. My little self enjoyed videogames, and hearing that someone wanted to take that away got me mad and put me into the pipeline. I snapped out of it when the alt-right started praising Trump, at which point I remember asking if everyone was actually serious.

I didn't have too long of a communist stint. I was repeatedly told that the revolution will happen any time soon, and... It never did. I then questioned why we're praising hyper-capitalist China and was basically told to trust the plan lol.

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[–] IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I have zero interest in reading what these people think about me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

You're an absolute chad dude

[–] pennomi 5 points 1 month ago

For me, growing up in a hyper-conservative household, religion, and state certainly flavored my initial political leanings. I certainly spread my share of cringe.

Pretty much as soon as I was able to think independently, it became obvious how bigoted those ideologies are.