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Why do some people defend the billionaires and capitalism? (self.asklemmy)

submitted 1 month ago by return2ozma to c/[email protected]

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[–] GrammarPolice 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I want to say that i appreciate your nuance on the subject. You have raised many good points, and i will take a lot of what you have said into consideration in my future discussions on the topic.

I also want to give kudos on your shift from focus on income to more the relationship with that income which i agree can create problems especially when it comes to power imbalances. The overfocus on the income is as you put it "obscurantist".

If a machine produces a thousand cubes but also produces at least one octahedron, what would you describe the function of the machine as being?

You raise a very good point here as well. One which makes sense with your analogy.

I've also gone through the articles you posted, and there's some pretty eye-opening stuff in there.

I guess this is in some ways an admittal of defeat. I do not know whether i completely subscribe to a "communism is the next best". I think i still need to educate myself more on this topic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm happy I could be helpful!

I guess this is in some ways an admittal of defeat

There's no need to claim defeat or victory, we're just talking; Success in communication is determined by the extent to which we are able to understand each other, and I think we did alright.

I think i still need to educate myself more on this topic.

I can't claim to represent any perspective but my own, but the text that really helped me to begin to see things differently was Socialism: Utopian and Scientific. Feel free to DM me/necropost here if there's anything I can help with.

[–] GrammarPolice 4 points 1 month ago

Thanks man. I'll be sure to hit you up if i need help with anything!