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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I recently heard a “housing expert” say that cities have to keep growing, there’s no sustainable static level of population, and I thought “there’s better be or we’re all fucked.”

The problem with capitalism is that it only works if there’s perpetual growth, which (as many before me have pointed out) is the logic of cancer.

[–] sensiblepuffin 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Tbf, people moving from rural areas to more dense and urban areas is kind of inevitable as time goes on. Megacities when?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And why is that “inevitable?” Is it because capitalism makes agrarian life basically impossible?

The problem with studies based on any current trends is that they are all framed with the assumption that capitalism will continue to be the dominant socioeconomic system.

[–] sensiblepuffin 3 points 2 months ago

Currently the earth is overpopulated and many parts of the world are only just starting to slow their population growth. The problem of crowding is going to be here for awhile. Eventually it would be great if we could reduce our population to the point where there's plenty of space for all, if that sounds utopian to you, but for the time being we're going to have to live in denser areas if we want to deliver amenities and services to all (and we do).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] sensiblepuffin 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] sensiblepuffin 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dense and (I guess I should have said or) urban areas. If these people are moving to the outskirts of metro areas, they're creating a dense, if not urban, community.

[–] MehBlah 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You are wasting you time with this person. They have already decided and nothing you post will be good enough. Anyone can see the population is way too high and further growth is dangerous for us all. Anyone who can't see it doesn't want too.

[–] sensiblepuffin 2 points 2 months ago

Hey, everyone deserves two or three back and forths before I write them off as not really wanting to have a debate on a thing