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I admit I haven’t paid a lot of attention to the leadership contest. But when it got down to the last 4, I read a brief description of each of the cunts.

James Cleverly seemed like the least bad option.

Not only is Robert Jenrick far-right, he is also fashionably far-right. What I mean by that is that he seems to have leaned to the far-right because it seems to be a popular position at the moment.

A bit like Boris. Writing two essays for and against Brexit.

Now I’m not against immigration, but I think it’s a bit of a fucking joke that the former IMMIGRATION minister should be the one in charge of a far right, anti-immigration movement. Like wasn’t that your job? And didn’t immigration keep going up under you? To record levels?

He’s also (unsurprisingly I suppose) in favour of Farrage joining the party. Although I suspect he may be looking to Nick his job if he does get in. He could Robert straight from under his feet.

So are the Tories officially a far right party now then? It definitely seems like it. And this is really dangerous. I mean it’s dangerous if they get in for obvious reasons but even when they’re not in power, it’s still moving the Overton window (that Corbyn really helped to move left) further to the right.

Giving Labour absolutely no excuse to move further left than they currently are. Which they definitely need to do in my opinion.

The Tories look to have become Reform UK and Labour are somewhere around Cameron style conservatism.

What do you guys think? Am I wrong? Is there anything that might make me a little more optimistic about the future? Anything positive that might come out of this? Cos I can’t see it currently.

I wonder what the Lib Dem’s are doing these days. I really haven’t paid attention to them since the coalition (although did tactically vote for them this past election).

But I haven’t had any strong left wing vibes off them like I used to get. Vibes lol. Sound like a moron but ye know what I meaaaaaan. The Greens for instance I also don’t pay attention to, yet I know from “vibes” in reality probably various news, that they are decently far left.

But then I’ve liked the greens forever really. It’s just they don’t stand a chance of winning. But I do wonder how many other people are like me? I suspect any previous Corbyn supporters are.

It’s like maybe if we all actually voted for who we really wanted then it might actually get them elected.

Labour really need to take this opportunity to change to PR. But you know they won’t. I mean French style PR anyway. To hopefully keep out the likes of Retarded UK and their cult members.

But yeah, what say ya’ll, as the yanks say?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (10 children)

The Lib Dems are looking to move into the centrist space vacated by the Tories. They are relishing the Tories moving so far right they aren't in the picture anymore.

[–] Oxymoron 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Tories were never centre though. They were right wing. Then they were more right wing, now they’re far right. In the order of Cameron, Boris and that new cunt.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Historically they were a center right party. They've moved progressively more and more right in recent decades but I'm old enough to remember when they were basically okay. They were never all that good, but they did at least have a few social policies and sensible immigration policies, that weren't just, ban or brown people.

They used to be all about small government and letting people get on with their lives, which wasn't very helpful for people who needed support, but for everybody else it was okay. At least they funded the damn police.

Now they don't even have coherent policies anymore, and actively seem to make everyone's lives worse (Brexit), unless they're in the upper 1%.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

At what point did Big Money corrupt them? And what could have been done to stop it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Which new one? There's a few to pick from.

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